Are the VRSF "HD" Intercoolers worth it?

Fallenangel123 · 08-28-2019, 04:04 AM

Hi guys,

Currently in the market for a new intercooler. It will be used to run MHD Stage 2+ for now, with the possibility of RB Turbos in the future. The 7.5" HD is almost £700 here in the UK.

Will cheaper alternatives do the job, or is it worth it for the VRSF?

Thanks!

type-dRew · 08-28-2019, 07:13 AM

What are the cheaper options for you? VRSF is some of the cheapest as well as best performing.

As far as being worth it, anything is worth it over stock but dont skimp on what is critically one of the most important upgrades on the car.

hellokitty · 08-28-2019, 07:30 AM

Is Wagner cheaper in the U.K.?

I would consider the Wagner Evo 3 even if it means paying a little more since the build quality is higher.

NoGuru · 08-28-2019, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hellokitty

Is Wagner cheaper in the U.K.?

I would consider the Wagner Evo 3 even if it means paying a little more since the build quality is higher.

I think they are made in Germany so this is what I would do as well.

Jerain · 08-28-2019, 10:45 AM

The VRSF and BMS Phoenix 7,5" cost around 600-700 euro in europe/UK, the Wagner Evo 3 around 1000 euro but it weighs 6 kg less bc it has aluminum endtanks.

If you ask me a big IC like this has higher pressure drop than a 5". For just MHD I think it's overkill... The latest 5" HD from VRSF seems to be the best for just FBO, but I don't think it's already available in europe/UK unless directly from the US VRSF website and you pay extra import taxes and VAT.

dcorn · 08-28-2019, 11:02 AM

At this point, you may never get it if you order one. I've been waiting 2 months for my 5" HD and the 7" has a longer lead time.

Just checked and now the 5" isn't available until October...

yielo · 08-28-2019, 11:23 AM

have you tried ebay for IC brands? Search NPBoosted on ebay as a seller. he sells a kit for 300 US dollars silicone clamps and piping. Ships Worldwide.

this is a link but dont know if itll work. last one available.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FMIC-Interc...b013%7Ciid%3A1

type-dRew · 08-28-2019, 11:24 AM

If the wagner 3 is only a minor extra spend and more easily available, id get that

twinscrolled · 08-28-2019, 11:32 AM

My $300 Wagner knock off is high quality and served me well for a few years running stage 2+ and now E50 at 20psi or so during these 100F Texas summers.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A bunch of local guys have various VSRF, ER, PSP, etc. and we see little to no differences in IAT's during normal street use. If you're building a drag car then a larger FMIC will help prevent heat soak and give you quicker cool downs.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-28-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallenangel123

Hi guys,

Currently in the market for a new intercooler. It will be used to run MHD Stage 2+ for now, with the possibility of RB Turbos in the future. The 7.5" HD is almost £700 here in the UK.

Will cheaper alternatives do the job, or is it worth it for the VRSF?

Thanks!

Im not sure why it costs so much there, but we can get one delivered to you for a lot cheaper than £700

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-28-2019, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by type-dRew

What are the cheaper options for you? VRSF is some of the cheapest as well as best performing.

As far as being worth it, anything is worth it over stock but dont skimp on what is critically one of the most important upgrades on the car.

+1

Fallenangel123 · 08-28-2019, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yielo

have you tried ebay for IC brands? Search NPBoosted on ebay as a seller. he sells a kit for 300 US dollars silicone clamps and piping. Ships Worldwide.

this is a link but dont know if itll work. last one available.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FMIC-Interc...b013%7Ciid%3A1

Are the ebay intercoolers any good, or junk as some members say? Any logs etc

Fallenangel123 · 08-28-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Im not sure why it costs so much there, but we can get one delivered to you for a lot cheaper than £700

PM Sent

JunkyardDogg · 09-01-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallenangel123

Are the ebay intercoolers any good, or junk as some members say? Any logs etc

I got a g-plus intercooler, basically a wagner replica for $200. Logs coming soon...

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type-dRew Major 642 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: 2009 335i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Newport MI iTrader: (0)	What are the cheaper options for you? VRSF is some of the cheapest as well as best performing. As far as being worth it, anything is worth it over stock but dont skimp on what is critically one of the most important upgrades on the car. __________________ 2009 335i xDrive AT / 177k+ miles PSP 750ic / Fuel-It! Stage 1 / BMS CP / Sutphin Tuning / RFP E50 11.61 @ 117.5 New setup; Covid 19Ts on RFP 93 + ARM inlets, dp, VTT cp and PSP outlets
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Jerain Second Lieutenant 72 Rep 202 Posts Drives: E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	The VRSF and BMS Phoenix 7,5" cost around 600-700 euro in europe/UK, the Wagner Evo 3 around 1000 euro but it weighs 6 kg less bc it has aluminum endtanks. If you ask me a big IC like this has higher pressure drop than a 5". For just MHD I think it's overkill... The latest 5" HD from VRSF seems to be the best for just FBO, but I don't think it's already available in europe/UK unless directly from the US VRSF website and you pay extra import taxes and VAT. __________________ ____________________________________________ 2007 BMW E92 335i 6MT lightweight - OS GIKEN Superlock LSD - FBO STAGE 2+ ETHANOL - TRACK/DRIFT/NÜRBURGRING
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dcorn Captain 86 Rep 951 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NoVA iTrader: (2)	At this point, you may never get it if you order one. I've been waiting 2 months for my 5" HD and the 7" has a longer lead time. Just checked and now the 5" isn't available until October...
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yielo 228i, m235i, n54 335i 3 Rep 43 Posts Drives: 08 335i MT MHD Stage 2+ Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Los, Angeles iTrader: (0)	have you tried ebay for IC brands? Search NPBoosted on ebay as a seller. he sells a kit for 300 US dollars silicone clamps and piping. Ships Worldwide. this is a link but dont know if itll work. last one available. https://www.ebay.com/itm/FMIC-Interc...b013%7Ciid%3A1
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type-dRew Major 642 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: 2009 335i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Newport MI iTrader: (0)	If the wagner 3 is only a minor extra spend and more easily available, id get that __________________ 2009 335i xDrive AT / 177k+ miles PSP 750ic / Fuel-It! Stage 1 / BMS CP / Sutphin Tuning / RFP E50 11.61 @ 117.5 New setup; Covid 19Ts on RFP 93 + ARM inlets, dp, VTT cp and PSP outlets
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twinscrolled Private 39 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (0)	My $300 Wagner knock off is high quality and served me well for a few years running stage 2+ and now E50 at 20psi or so during these 100F Texas summers. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 A bunch of local guys have various VSRF, ER, PSP, etc. and we see little to no differences in IAT's during normal street use. If you're building a drag car then a larger FMIC will help prevent heat soak and give you quicker cool downs.
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