BMW 335i V Audi S3

Coupes33 · 10-10-2019, 06:11 AM

Last night, I took my stock standard 2017 Audi S3 Sedan out to the Test N Tune to see what it would do. I did 2 runs using launch control and achieved a 12.953 @ 106.65 mph and a 12.909 @ 106.4 mph. When I compare these times with the times my 335i was achieving back in 2010 with only a Vishnu Procede V4 tune installed, they are pretty impressive for a 2.0L turbo. My BMW back then was getting low 13s with the best a 12.978 @ 108mph. Even after I installed AR DPs, HPF IC and Quaife LSD, I was still getting 12.8s regularly with the best being a 12.4s. An Audi S3 with only a APR Stage 1 tune was doing 12.0s times. There were 2 BMW M2s running as well last night. The best time out of the 2 of them was a 12.6s with most runs in the 13s. The most impressive car was a VW Golf R that run a 9.91s after which he was stopped from running because he didn't have a roll cage.

Brule · 10-10-2019, 06:55 AM

Yea the golf r are quick. Even on pump fuel doing 12s easy probably 11s.
The audi seem to be a step above in recent years. For 2.0 doing 12s is pretty crazy.
When you do every bolt ons pary to an sr20 back in my day were doing 13s thinking it was a 1000hp beast.

You have a nice line up of cars thats for sure.
And you drag race them even better.

Soden82 · 10-10-2019, 09:48 AM

One of my friends owned a tuned Golf R and my other friend had an S3 with downpipe, tune and intake and both were quick. They pulled on my N55 pretty bad each time

kookie · 10-10-2019, 04:48 PM

S3/Golf R is quick. Stage 1 has a 0 -100 time in the low 3's / high 2's. But they do run out of breath after the 1/4 mile.

donR · 10-10-2019, 07:19 PM

I think it is the DSG gear box that shifts a little quicker and with the 4WD you are probably looking at 0.5 sec there combined. Great bang for your buck.

It is the A45 AMG 2.0l that impress me. Now 310 KW at of the box!

Coupes33 · 10-10-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brule

Yea the golf r are quick. Even on pump fuel doing 12s easy probably 11s.
The audi seem to be a step above in recent years. For 2.0 doing 12s is pretty crazy.
When you do every bolt ons pary to an sr20 back in my day were doing 13s thinking it was a 1000hp beast.

You have a nice line up of cars thats for sure.
And you drag race them even better.

The Golf R and Audi S3 share the same engine and DSG transmission so there is plenty of potential from both. There are quite a few RS3s running at the Test N Tunes as well. Plenty doing low 11s and some high 10s. The best I have seen was a 9.98s. Why spend $400-500,000 on a Ferrari or Lambo when you can get normal street cars doing better times at a fraction of the cost.

Coupes33 · 10-10-2019, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by donR

I think it is the DSG gear box that shifts a little quicker and with the 4WD you are probably looking at 0.5 sec there combined. Great bang for your buck.

It is the A45 AMG 2.0l that impress me. Now 310 KW at of the box!

Yes, the new A45 should be quick over the 1/4. It may get high 11s. I have seen a stock Audi S3 with just a APR Stage 1 tune do consistent 12.0s runs and this is about $25K cheaper than a A45.

Aus335iguy · 10-11-2019, 03:50 PM

They are fast and the combination of power, traction and gearing are hard to beat.
Its a shame BMW didn't explore AWD and DKG with more vigour earlier on. Though I understand that the M5 AWD is a weapon... its a boat though and costs as much as a house.

Golf R for the bang for your buck win!

donR · 10-14-2019, 05:34 AM

Don't forget the BMW is about the rear wheel drive driving experience and carving those corners rather than just the straight line speed.

gmx · 10-17-2019, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by donR

Don't forget the BMW is about the rear wheel drive driving experience and carving those corners rather than just the straight line speed.

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Coupes33 Major 378 Rep 1,399 Posts Drives: 2006 335i, 2017 Audi S3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia iTrader: (0)	BMW 335i V Audi S3 Last night, I took my stock standard 2017 Audi S3 Sedan out to the Test N Tune to see what it would do. I did 2 runs using launch control and achieved a 12.953 @ 106.65 mph and a 12.909 @ 106.4 mph. When I compare these times with the times my 335i was achieving back in 2010 with only a Vishnu Procede V4 tune installed, they are pretty impressive for a 2.0L turbo. My BMW back then was getting low 13s with the best a 12.978 @ 108mph. Even after I installed AR DPs, HPF IC and Quaife LSD, I was still getting 12.8s regularly with the best being a 12.4s. An Audi S3 with only a APR Stage 1 tune was doing 12.0s times. There were 2 BMW M2s running as well last night. The best time out of the 2 of them was a 12.6s with most runs in the 13s. The most impressive car was a VW Golf R that run a 9.91s after which he was stopped from running because he didn't have a roll cage.
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Brule Brigadier General 841 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 6spd man Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Darwin iTrader: (0)	Yea the golf r are quick. Even on pump fuel doing 12s easy probably 11s. The audi seem to be a step above in recent years. For 2.0 doing 12s is pretty crazy. When you do every bolt ons pary to an sr20 back in my day were doing 13s thinking it was a 1000hp beast. You have a nice line up of cars thats for sure. And you drag race them even better.
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Soden82 Major 497 Rep 1,231 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW M3 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Boston iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [0.00]	One of my friends owned a tuned Golf R and my other friend had an S3 with downpipe, tune and intake and both were quick. They pulled on my N55 pretty bad each time __________________ 2009 BMW 335i 6MT big single (eventually) For now... MHD tuned VRSF Race IC DCI ATM exhaust
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kookie Lieutenant 75 Rep 460 Posts Drives: e93 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (2)	S3/Golf R is quick. Stage 1 has a 0 -100 time in the low 3's / high 2's. But they do run out of breath after the 1/4 mile.
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donR Captain 101 Rep 826 Posts Drives: E91 335i, B5 RS4, F31 330i, i4 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2024 BMW i4 [0.00] 2016 F31 330i M Spo ... [9.00] 2019 718 GTS [0.00] 2001 Audi RS4 SOLD [0.00] 2008 E91 335i SOLD [0.00]	I think it is the DSG gear box that shifts a little quicker and with the 4WD you are probably looking at 0.5 sec there combined. Great bang for your buck. It is the A45 AMG 2.0l that impress me. Now 310 KW at of the box!
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Aus335iguy Colonel 660 Rep 2,139 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 335i MSport DCT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Sydney Aus iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [10.00]	They are fast and the combination of power, traction and gearing are hard to beat. Its a shame BMW didn't explore AWD and DKG with more vigour earlier on. Though I understand that the M5 AWD is a weapon... its a boat though and costs as much as a house. Golf R for the bang for your buck win! __________________ When you doppelkaplung you doppel your fun.
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donR Captain 101 Rep 826 Posts Drives: E91 335i, B5 RS4, F31 330i, i4 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2024 BMW i4 [0.00] 2016 F31 330i M Spo ... [9.00] 2019 718 GTS [0.00] 2001 Audi RS4 SOLD [0.00] 2008 E91 335i SOLD [0.00]	Don't forget the BMW is about the rear wheel drive driving experience and carving those corners rather than just the straight line speed.
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