[AU335]

I am not updated my progman or anything since i had my car delivered a year ago (June 1st 2007). So im positive i am still sitting with whatever DME and progman version my car came with from Germany a year ago

[Sniz]

can you tell your dealership not to update your car? Its my car....I dont them touching/altering it without my permission.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by Sniz

can you tell your dealership not to update your car? Its my car....I dont them touching/altering it without my permission.

I think if you refuse to accept a BMW update, they can refuse to do any work on your car since glitches the updates are designed for ensures the car runs better and to removes any problems that they continually find.

[leftcoastman]

Is updating the Progman a quick process? In other words, when I had my emissions update done, it apparently took a few hours.

Just want to figure out if they can "sneak it in"

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Is updating the Progman a quick process? In other words, when I had my emissions update done, it apparently took a few hours.

Just want to figure out if they can "sneak it in"

Mine took approx 3 hours.

[2007_E93]

Wait a second....you guys are saying that Progman 29.2 will detect PAST tunes before 29.2 was even installed? I thought Jim was referring to the fact that the 29.2 update would detect any subsequent tunes AFTER it was installed. I can't see how they would need to install a new update if the progman 29.2 had the capability of instantly looking at your history and telling them there was a tune on the car back in January 2008 for instance. It has to be logging as of the date of installation of 29.2 otherwise there would be no need for an install. They would just "search" the car's memory instead using the software at the dealership. If it's an update it has to be from the time of install forward.

Please, tell me I'm right,...god I hope I'm right....

Otherwise our warranties are already gone....

[AU335]

Originally Posted by 2007_E93

Wait a second....you guys are saying that Progman 29.2 will detect PAST tunes before 29.2 was even installed? I thought Jim was referring to the fact that the 29.2 update would detect any subsequent tunes AFTER it was installed. I can't see how they would need to install a new update if the progman 29.2 had the capability of instantly looking at your history and telling them there was a tune on the car back in January 2008 for instance. It has to be logging as of the date of installation of 29.2 otherwise there would be no need for an install. They would just "search" the car's memory instead using the software at the dealership. If it's an update it has to be from the time of install forward.

Please, tell me I'm right,...god I hope I'm right....

Otherwise our warranties are already gone....

Yeh i think your right man! I have been freaking out lately after reading everything about 29.2 update and "secret codes". I asked Terry about this and he said this:

Originally Posted by Terry Burger

lol no. If it is true it would only work if the piggyback was on the car at the same time as the new progman.

[smdandb2]

True, no PAST detection.

[stressdoc]

No way a new progman can tell what happened before; but previous versions reportedly generated data that could be analyzed by field engineers to detect all manner of malfeasance. Bottom line: do not abuse your warranty.

[2007_E93]

Originally Posted by AU335

Yeh i think your right man! I have been freaking out lately after reading everything about 29.2 update and "secret codes". I asked Terry about this and he said this:

WHEW!

THIS is where I think Shark Edit will come in handy for people like me that have no earthly idea how to tune a car. But, I can figure out how to save the Progman 29.2 file and then reflash or restore the old 29.2 file after I put a tune on it. I just hope as information leaks out about it that we see this is built in to Jim's design. Then it would just be a matter of reloading a stock ECU map and data and off to the dealership we go,...

[2e9x's]

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Is updating the Progman a quick process? In other words, when I had my emissions update done, it apparently took a few hours.

Just want to figure out if they can "sneak it in"

According to my tech when he flashed my car last time, it depends on how many modules need to be updated. It can take 8 hours or more. It can also be very fast.