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      10-13-2020, 10:12 PM   #23
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I used to fly... and cannot figure out for the life of me how something like this happens.
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I used to fly... and cannot figure out for the life of me how something like this happens.
Too much touch and not enough go?

With a disclaimer that I haven't flown in a GA plane since I was 4 years old, was the pilot already too slow for a touch-and-go even before he started veering left on the runway?

Also, what was that horrible rumble strip-sounding noise right before he mashed the throttle? I assumed that it was the left tire blowing, but am now wondering if it was the nose wheel touching down? Did the nose wheel tire blow? Do those planes have ABS that kicked in and startled the pilot?

I do know from years of hosting motorsports events at GA airports that 300-400 feet of wheels in the grass would have brought that plane to a dead stop from 40 knots if the engine was cut. As the race driver saying goes, put both feet in and enjoy the spin.....
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      10-14-2020, 08:43 AM   #25
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Also, what was that horrible rumble strip-sounding noise right before he mashed the throttle?
I'm thinking nosewheel shimmy, but it has been many years since I flew a C172.

I don't think any tires blew, and there is not ABS in that plane. You can hear the tires squeeling as he makes that hard right turn off the runway. He totally missed the apex, too.

Even though he firewalled the throttle, it doesn't sound like the engine power increases or the speed increases.
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The way he panicked and then froze up makes me not really want him flying or driving anything.
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I am not so sure that this was an intended touch and go. This seems to me to be a low time student pilot with relatively few solo flights due to his reactions to the unexpected drift to the left after touchdown. At this stage of training T&G's are not introduced to a student. All landings are to a full stop with a taxi back for a subsequent take off. I think that it was his inexperience, and an elevated state of anxiety which is to some degree natural at this stage of training, that resulted in this accident.

The initial drift to the left was easily correctable, but for some reason which I can only attribute to fear, he overreacted, then did something completely wrong (added throttle), and then froze at the controls when things got really bad. I hope it was only his ego that was injured.
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I see stuff like this and start to understand why rotary wing is so much more expensive....

If you can't even handle this, well...that could have been a far worse disaster in a chopper.
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This guy should never be allowed to fly again lol.
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      10-21-2020, 06:31 PM   #30
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Words to live by right here..

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