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On paper maybe ... not in reality. Different story with F8x vs E9x. Although the weight decrease was minimal opposed to official data! If you compared F82 without CCB vs M3 Coupe the delta in real world measurement was around 20kg. |
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As far as the Supra goes, it being a BMW actually makes me nervous about the prospect of ownership. Mainly because Toyota dealers seem to have no idea how to work on them. There are plenty of stories of people being without their cars for days or weeks while Toyota goes back and forth with BMW trying to figure out how to work on a problem. It makes me feel like if I'm going down that route I might as well get an actual BMW so I can have a better service experience.
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Always a pleasure to hear the CSL sing its airbox anth///M: Apart from "matching the predecessor weight", also a word of caution about unrealistic weight reduction expectations - BMW M engineer Jürgen Schwenker in a Spring 2011 interview regarding the 1M (see here or here): "Q: Would it not have been possible to reduce the weight of the BMW 1 Series M Coupé to closer to 1,400 kilos instead of the 1,570 kilos achieved? After all, a number of body parts had to be redeveloped anyway. What would have been the additional cost for the customer if the 1,400 kg target had been reached ?And then there is also the art of figures management that had to be adjusted because of new regulations, requiring car weight figures to be more realistic (no longer the weight figure of a stripped Porsche with PCCB, manual transmission and without airco, without SATNAV & radio, etc. to pull down the weight figure to the minimum level - a minimum weight configuration that only very few customers spec): Quote:
Rumor has it that in the early stages of F87 M2 development, BMW also looked into the option of using a reworked N20 engine (4-cyl) for the M2 (N20 Technical Training). A 4-banger would have saved weight and offered reduced emissions. But that did not materialize: in the end an N55 engine variant (6-cyl) was the powerhouse weapon of choice for the original F87 M2 presented late 2015: Quote:
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I agree with this for the majority of Nissans we see on the road, but unlike those cars the Z (also GTR, and other JDM "luxury" cars) is produced in the Tochigi plant. My Z33 and Z34 were considerably more reliable than my E92, but given the issues that come along with owning an N54 that's probably not saying much and rather unsurprising
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Don't worry, there will be 2381 other things for people to complain about, and why they are moving to Porsche or how the F87 is the last "true" M
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My '17 F87 DCT M2 was approx (didnt weight it) My '19 F87 DCT M2C is approx 3600 lbs If I lose 20lbs, that is the best outcome.
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I'd estimate about 1600kg for the G87 and that would be a good outcome with further safety and tech added.
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Based on your previous comments in this thread, you have some bad taste in your mouth for the F87 due to 2 possible reasons: 1) you owned a lemon 2) you have bad taste in general
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What ARE you talking about? Understeer is not something associated with the F8x series M cars. Can't take comments like this seriously
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