Pulling injectors without tools?

ghost_m2c · 02-08-2022, 10:45 AM

Hey all,
Wanted to do my valve cover gasket this weekend, but I am not sure how to proceed with the injectors in the way. The injector tool on FCP Euro is $100 and I would rather not buy it if im using it maybe twice in the cars life. That being said, I would really not want to risk fucking up injectors that are ~$500 a piece. Any suggestions?

dmckmc · 02-08-2022, 11:10 AM

Injectors stay in place, no need to remove for valve cover change. Only the over the top fuel feed tubes need to be removed/disconnected.

ghost_m2c · 02-08-2022, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dmckmc

Injectors stay in place, no need to remove for valve cover change. Only the over the top fuel feed tubes need to be removed/disconnected.

Perfect! Do you need to remove the retaining clips that hold them in place?

mang.vang · 02-08-2022, 11:53 AM

Nope.

Jaronbwall · 02-08-2022, 02:26 PM

Buy a little swivel mirror for the valve cover gasket install! It's going to save you time because you can't see the back of the valve cover when installing it. You're completely blind otherwise and the gasket will try to move out of position over, and over, and over again. Trust me it sucks. Buy some big zip ties to hold stuff out of the way when cleaning the head and removing everything. There's a f**k ton of bolts. Keep track of the fuel rail lines, plugs, and coils. Lay it out on a table and put everything back on the same cylinder as before.

Ozzie335i · 02-09-2022, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dmckmc

Injectors stay in place, no need to remove for valve cover change. Only the over the top fuel feed tubes need to be removed/disconnected.

The pressure in these needs to be bled off before disconnecting them.

Dave92N54 · 02-09-2022, 12:00 PM

Just FYI, there is a diesel injector removal tool on Amazon for dirt cheap that works perfectly with our injectors. I'd recommend getting one. Or for a little more you can get the PR tool which does the seals too.

iqraceworks · 02-10-2022, 08:49 AM

When I replaced an Injector a while ago...I just took the fuel line that goes from the injector to the rail off....screwed one end back onto the injector.....and pulled the injector right out. No special tools needed.

Tyc0 · 02-10-2022, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by iqraceworks

When I replaced an Injector a while ago...I just took the fuel line that goes from the injector to the rail off....screwed one end back onto the injector.....and pulled the injector right out. No special tools needed.

This is the way to go. No need to spend extra money on tools you'll only use once. I have done this multiple times and the worst thing that can happen is you slightly bend one of the lines, which can easily be bent back or probably bought for cheap. Regardless, you don't need to remove injectors for a valve cover job.

Navykiller · 02-15-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaronbwall

Buy a little swivel mirror for the valve cover gasket install! It's going to save you time because you can't see the back of the valve cover when installing it. You're completely blind otherwise and the gasket will try to move out of position over, and over, and over again. Trust me it sucks. Buy some big zip ties to hold stuff out of the way when cleaning the head and removing everything. There's a f**k ton of bolts. Keep track of the fuel rail lines, plugs, and coils. Lay it out on a table and put everything back on the same cylinder as before.

on top of this. MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE FUEL INJECTOR HOLD DOWN BRACKETS ON THE CORRECT WAY.

I did not do this. An injector shot out and sheared the fuel line, pouring gas all over a hot engine. Take your time, and do not rush. What will save you is having an air ratchet, because its a pita to get to the back bolts. Also, make sure your wires in the back do not get pinched between the cover and body for the engine. I learned real quick how meticulous you have to be with this car lol

rjahl · 02-15-2022, 12:27 PM

Just put a little RTV on the gasket in a few strategic places and it will stay in place during the install. Key is "a little" and don't get the RTV on the face of the gasket. 5 bucks and you don't need to worry.

feuer · 02-15-2022, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by iqraceworks

When I replaced an Injector a while ago...I just took the fuel line that goes from the injector to the rail off....screwed one end back onto the injector.....and pulled the injector right out. No special tools needed.

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Originally Posted by Tyc0

This is the way to go. No need to spend extra money on tools you'll only use once. I have done this multiple times and the worst thing that can happen is you slightly bend one of the lines, which can easily be bent back or probably bought for cheap. Regardless, you don't need to remove injectors for a valve cover job.

It works but you can damage the line. I can show you deformed fuel lines that I use for removing injectors

They don't come out easy all the time. I have replace hundreds probably.

iqraceworks · 02-15-2022, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

It works but you can damage the line. I can show you deformed fuel lines that I use for removing injectors

They don't come out easy all the time. I have replace hundreds probably.

As long as you have some common sense and mechanical skills......you can get them out without bending the fuel lines. If you are the kind of person that can't operate a toaster, or tie your shoes correctly.........buy the special injector pulling tool

feuer · 02-15-2022, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by iqraceworks

As long as you have some common sense and mechanical skills......you can get them out without bending the fuel lines. If you are the kind of person that can't operate a toaster, or tie your shoes correctly.........buy the special injector pulling tool

I get what you saying but some really get welded in there. Not even special tool helps. If you work on cars professionally you would know.

El-daybed · 02-16-2022, 06:29 PM

You dont have to remove the injectors to do the valve cover, i just did one on my car today without removing them

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dmckmc Private 59 Rep 95 Posts Drives: BMW 535i E60 (2008) Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Injectors stay in place, no need to remove for valve cover change. Only the over the top fuel feed tubes need to be removed/disconnected.
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Jaronbwall Driving cars and riding bikes really fast 296 Rep 1,023 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Indianapolis iTrader: (0)	Buy a little swivel mirror for the valve cover gasket install! It's going to save you time because you can't see the back of the valve cover when installing it. You're completely blind otherwise and the gasket will try to move out of position over, and over, and over again. Trust me it sucks. Buy some big zip ties to hold stuff out of the way when cleaning the head and removing everything. There's a f**k ton of bolts. Keep track of the fuel rail lines, plugs, and coils. Lay it out on a table and put everything back on the same cylinder as before. __________________ 335i, sport pkg, 3 pedals, Blacked out, LED markers, OZ Ultraleggera wheels, Firestone Indy 500s, x-pipe, vibrant 1792, PE mod MHD stage 2+, BMS DPs, ARM charge pipe, Tial BOV, ARM FMIC, dual cone, CSF radiator, M3 control arms, sways, HAWK pads. https://www.strava.com/athletes/8309149 Follow me on Strava
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Dave92N54 Major 534 Rep 1,173 Posts Drives: 09 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Westminster, Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [10.00]	Just FYI, there is a diesel injector removal tool on Amazon for dirt cheap that works perfectly with our injectors. I'd recommend getting one. Or for a little more you can get the PR tool which does the seals too. __________________ 09 E92 335i 6MT / Alpine White / Coral Red / VRSF 7.5" / VRSF DCI / VRSF Catless Downpipes / VTT Charge Pipe / Turbosmart RacePort Gen V / RB OEM Billet Turbos / CD919 Custom Tune / Bilstein PSS9s
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iqraceworks Brigadier General 2088 Rep 3,809 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Missouri iTrader: (0)	When I replaced an Injector a while ago...I just took the fuel line that goes from the injector to the rail off....screwed one end back onto the injector.....and pulled the injector right out. No special tools needed.
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rjahl Colonel 1002 Rep 2,287 Posts Drives: Z4 35is Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 Z4 35is [0.00]	Just put a little RTV on the gasket in a few strategic places and it will stay in place during the install. Key is "a little" and don't get the RTV on the face of the gasket. 5 bucks and you don't need to worry.
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El-daybed Private 9 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 08 335xi Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	You dont have to remove the injectors to do the valve cover, i just did one on my car today without removing them
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