[e.n335]

Originally Posted by 335destroyer

where can i get the updated spedometer up to 310km/h?

Germany. Price is 599 €. Same company where Alpina lets adjust their speedos. Cruise control adjustment is included. 310, 320 or 330 kph. 320 kph is common, but they make you a 400 kph speedo as well ( @ additional costs ) . Mandatory for TUEV compliance.

wsm.de/produkte/39/3er.html

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Tobias1980

Price and info please Eugen!

2600 € in Germany, 4200 CHF in Switzerland ( ~ 4100 US$ ) . Just write an email to Noelle and ask about the most close shop to where you live and can get the tune. It works great, I can recommend it. My car will be on the dyno next Tuesday. I had difficulties when engine was idling in Steptronic "D" mode. Disconnecting the battery for 1 hour and forcing the ECU to relearn solved the issue. I just tried and it worked.

The ECU-flash cannot be overwritten from BMW dealerships. You cannot hide the tune. After the Noelle tuning the ECU will be password-protected from Noelle. Fair play.

The tuning is TUEV compliant in Germany and has a homologation for Switzerland. There is nothing to hide. A no-brainer. Everybody writing a tuned 335i ( 360chp+ ) is a different car is right.

[CarveOut]

Originally Posted by e.n335

The ECU-flash cannot be overwritten from BMW dealerships. You cannot hide the tune. After the Noelle tuning the ECU will be password-protected from Noelle. Fair play.

Not to mention that DIS does not work properly with this flash, I was also wondering if and how Noelle can provide their customers with software updates that might be required? Do you have to take your car to Noelle then? Are they implementing BMWs software changes into their software or are they assuming this won't be necessary?

At least you don't have to worry about an update to 29.2 anymore!

[Ferdinand135i]

Hi people,

Here are some answers form the Netherlands ...

@Tobias1980 and Hampi
You van find the tuner on www.ac-schnitzer.de

Price ASC135i 360PS/520Nm Euro 6.152,- (in. VAT)

(that includes):
- Software update
- Exhaust
- Speedometer
- Finetuning soft- and hardware on the dyno
- work fee

The car must stay at least 5 days at Ac Schnitzer's.
You must buy the whole package, if you want the 360 PS version. The Ac Schnizter software will not be sold separately.

@Robmaster:
Yes, ofcourse, a softwarepdate must be done.

@en355
The Ac Schnitzer tune is not the Noelle tune. Ac Schnitzer told me that, they were even a little bit furious on that point . Anyway, both great tunes I suppose, but if you look at the dyno's, you can indeed notice a big difference between the powercurve of the Noelle and the Ac Schnitzer.

I am looking forward to your dyno. Ac Schnitzer will deliver my 135i with a performance certificate, that includes een dynorun. So we can nice compare.

Have great fun!

Greets Ferdinand

[Ferdinand135i]

In addition, some numbers from AC Schnitzer (real live messured numbers date 12. June 2008, numbers that the ACS135i always must give, are:

- DIN kW/PS = 265/360 bei 5850 upm (ROZ 98-100 EU) (USA SAE HP = 355)
- Max Drehmoment (Nm) = 520 bei 4350 - 5000 (USA Lb-Ft = 384)
- 0 - 100 Km/ps (USA 0 - 62 m/ph) 4.7 sec.
- 0 - 200 Km/ps (USA 0 - 124 m/ph) 16.7 sec.
- 80 - 120 Km/ps (USA 49 - 75 m/ph) in 4th gear 4.0 sec.
- 80 - 120 Km/ps (USA 49 - 75 m/ph) in 5th gear 4.5 sec.
- 297 km/ps Hochstgeschwindichkeit (USA 185 Mph)

Just for information and for fun ofcourse!

Ferdinand

[Hampi]

Thanx, but they are way too pricy and also with AC Schnitzer, your stock guarantee is gone. AC Schnitzer is providing a guarantee of their own, but in case something is broken you have to prove that the AC Schnitzer tuning kit is responsible for the failure (same thing with the Dähler guarantee) . Not fun!

[e.n335]

Well, this is the maximum you can get here. Alternative is buying a piggy and hide it. Or keep the car stock.

[Hampi]

...or get an Alpina , but these are damn expensive

[Ferdinand135i]

Originally Posted by Hampi

Thanx, but they are way too pricy and also with AC Schnitzer, your stock guarantee is gone. AC Schnitzer is providing a guarantee of their own, but in case something is broken you have to prove that the AC Schnitzer tuning kit is responsible for the failure (same thing with the Dähler guarantee) . Not fun!

Hi Hampi,

You are wrong about the guarantee, it is as follows (here in Europe..).

I have indeed an additional guarantee of AC Schnitzer, but it's complementair to the BMW guarantee (they have a coorporation). In other words: When there is a problem with the engine after my car is tuned by AC Schnizter, I must, from now on, first(!) go to AC Schnitzer. AC Schnizter will always solve the problem for me. If the problem is not caused by AC Schnizter, but it's caused by a technical failure of BMW, AC Schnizter wil contact BMW and work it out. So, the whole (theoretical) discussion between ACS and BMW, is out of my sight.

Great gaurantee.

[Ferdinand135i]

Originally Posted by Hampi

Thanx, but they are way too pricy and also with AC Schnitzer

Hi Handy,

Also about the pricing, I guess you are wrong. I think the AC Schnizter is not expensive, but it's absolutly worth the price. For appr. Euro 6.000, - you get:

1. A modified DME and finetuning on your car (not a powerbox).
2. Speedometer.
3. Exhaust (superb quality).
4. Guarantee (complementair to the BMW guarantee).
5. All the working hours are included (installation exhaust, speedometer and finetuning DME on the dyno).
6. And (!) the AC Schnizter tuning has a certain value when you want to sell the car.

(I know)

[Hampi]

Hi Ferdinand

Well, thats theory I dont know about in real live...
As for the price: I only need more power, no updated speedometer or exhaust.

BTW: My name is Hampi, not Handy
2BTW: I just phoned to BMW Switzerland: There is no such cooperation between BWM and AC Schnitzer here in Switzerland!

[Ferdinand135i]

Originally Posted by Hampi

Hi Ferdinand

Well, thats theory I dont know about in real live...
As for the price: I only need more power, no updated speedometer or exhaust.

BTW: My name is Hampi, not Handy
2BTW: I just phoned to BMW Switzerland: There is no such cooperation between BWM and AC Schnitzer here in Switzerland!

Hi Hampi !! (correct name),

Call AC Schnitzer, they will tell you about the guarantee. Ofcourse it should be the same as in Germany.

According to AC Schnitzer, they will only deliver the whole package (DME, Speedo and Exhaust). The Exhaust is needed, otherwise ACS cannot claim that the 355bhp will be, under the most worse curcomstances, available. In other words: if you just want the power, you need the exhaust (according to ACS).

greats ferdinand

[Hampi]

For me its important, what BMW says...

But anyway, this thread is about Noelle (sorry Eugen ;-))

[e.n335]

Hi Hampi,

Dähler ( 335i Noelle tune in Switzerland ) has a lot of clients at the dealership Titan AG ZH, where I bought my car and I am one of them. It is not the first ECU tune I bought from Dähler.

In case the car will break ( I honestly don't think so ) I will drive or being towed to the dealership and ask whether something is not clear related to warranty. If they would reject ( I don't think so as well ), I contact NSA warranty.

I am also permitted to add a better/bigger intercooler and oilcooler. This has to be agreed with Dähler. Dähler has OEM DP's with metal catalysts as well, which offer you +20 HP crank on top of the tune.

That's how it works in Switzerland. Remember, the N54 engine has been built and tested from BMW for 380 HP crank. This was way too much for the current product portfolio and would have canibalized e9n M3 sales. Our detuned engines have 315 - 330 HP crank.

I am happy with it. The e93 M3 in my configuration is US$40.000 over my current e93 335i. I have lots of power.

The Noelle tune delivers ~ 14psi and spikes up to 14.5psi maximum. This is really great. Other tunes I used spiked up to 16-17psi easily, which can cause overspinning the turbos and turbo bearing failures. I can see some turbo defects on the forum but close to zero engine or transmission defects. Once I did my first 60k miles the turbos did a good job and then it's time for me to replace or upgrade them. This will be after the warranty period, which is 3 years in Switzerland ( so in 2 years from now ). My oil consumption at 16k miles is zero and I cange the engine oil every 6k miles ( Of course, did a break-in oil-change as well ). The car is tuned since day 1.

I have the MSD80 with ProgMan 28.n ( updated in Feb. 2008 at my own costs ). BMW is no more able to update the ECU because of the Noelle tune.

The car will be on the dyno next Tuesday.

You all might know that I live in Switzerland since 1995, but I am Austrian. Believe me or not, I never bought a Swiss product/solution which did not work as expected. That's how Swiss people are, not cheap and very serious in business. I like it.

Cheers,
Eugen

[Hampi]

Originally Posted by e.n335

...That's how Swiss people are, not cheap and very serious in business. I like it.

...but unfortunately, they are bad soccer players

[Tobias1980]

How do you go back to stock with the Noelle tune?

[e.n335]

Send the ECU to Noelle. I could visit them, they are not far from where I live.

[Ferdinand135i]

Originally Posted by Hampi

...but unfortunately, they are bad soccer players

And how are the crazy dutchies doing ... ?

[6Zylinder]

Originally Posted by Hampi

...but unfortunately, they are bad soccer players

leider .....

[e.n335]

Reden wir hier über Fussball oder wie

[6Zylinder]

I just had to give my " senf dazu".
The Noelle tune seems to be perfect but it's a bit pricey for my taste. I'll wait for V3 and see how that works.

[Ferdinand135i]

Originally Posted by e.n335

Another 200 miles with the Noelle tune. My car gets faster and faster, the grin in my face broader and broader...

Hi Eugen,

Small question though. Why does your car needs a 'break-in' period with the tune? Isn't the new (Noelle) software, comming with the extra power, immediatly available?

Greats, Ferdinand