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04-20-2022, 10:57 AM | #1 |
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Massive oil out exhaust
So my buddy owns a 300i N52 and is having issues with MASSIVE smoke out his exhaust and it is definitely oil. I looked under the car and where the header meets the exhaust the gasket was dripping oil (bottom of headers, start of exhaust pipes), I tightened the bolt which resolved that problem (LOL) but it was a solid indicator of oil leakage as it was very dark.
Here's the video of what's going on: All images can be found here: imgur.com/gallery/roK5yUy Compression test on all cylinders shows 200 across the board with cylinder 1 at maybe 190 ![]() Plugs are in HORRIBLE shape: ![]() and VANOS needed replaced: ![]() Codes initially were: DME/DDE [MSV70] | 29F4: Catalytic-converter conversion DME/DDE [MSV70] | 29F5: Catalytic-converter conversion 2 DME/DDE [MSV70] | 2A82: VANOS intake DME/DDE [MSV70] | 2A87: Exhaust VANOS, mechanism DME/DDE [MSV70] | 29D0: Combustion misfires, cylinder 4 DME/DDE [MSV70] | 29D2: Combustion misfires, cylinder 6 DME/DDE [MSV70] | 29CC: Combustion misfires, several cylinders ***This car has NO CATS and has AA headers to account for first 2 codes After replacing VANOS and resetting codes, nothing has instantly popped back up. At first I thought it was a blown head gasket, maybe the rings... then I read about the oil separator for this engine being a big cause on this.... any way to test that? Ideas on what this could be? Last edited by udfxrookie; 04-20-2022 at 10:58 AM.. Reason: added post with all photos |
04-20-2022, 11:11 AM | #2 |
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Nice, detailed post. Doubt it’s the head gasket though. That’s just not common, and this also appears to be oil burning and not coolant. I don’t think valve stem seals are a common failure point on this engine, but maybe?
Before you do any further digging, check the PCV system. Since it’s a separate system with the 330 and isn’t integrated into the valve cover, the good news is you can replace things separately. Also a couple stray comments—some more constructive than others ![]()
I think you’re on the right track by starting with PCV system. Maybe one of the 330 guys will chime in with some specific suggestions on things to check. I’d just look over everything. Good luck!
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I have no cats mated to 335 Remus mufflers… I don't think I've ever put out that much smoke when my crankcase ventilator was shot. Was totally drinking oil - but I only recall getting something similar to that exhaust display in the cold months when I was in Virginia…
Maybe an opportune time to run some seafoam through the crankcase / injectors and give it a good flush at the end of cycling those cleaners through. Never seen a gnarlier set of vanos, tbh 👀
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Oh yea. Oil separator/PCV system. Particularly if it started doing it suddenly.
The check valve in the bottom of the drain is stuck open, and the separator/valve cover inlet is probably clogged, and the diaphragm is probably torn. It's sucking oil into the intake manifold like a straw in a milkshake. Pro tip. Use a fuel line disconnect tool to remove the drain line from the oil pan. Or a sawz-all.
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My car had the super mega oil separator trifecta failure at about 285k. Drank 2 quarts in about 30 miles. There was actually liquid oil dripping out the exhaust discharge as the engine would just pump it through without burning it during misfires. Something like a quart was puddled inside the intake manifold when I removed it.
I put in Beck Arnley replacement parts, no problems in the last 40k. I'm still a little worried my cat's got fouled. I started having cat efficiency malfunctions in the DME, but they haven't crossed the threshold to light up an OBD fault. It also could just be that the car has a lot of miles on it.
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Valve stem seals don't go from 'tight' one day to 'James Bond getaway car' fouling all six plugs the next day.
N52 valve stems probably take 20,000+ hours to get that leaky.
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