[Turbo_435i]

I'm planning on getting the PC 7424.
someone please give me a direct idea of what type of pads to get and where.2ndly, what type of polish do i use for mild swirls? Do you use the same polish for different pads? or do you use different polish with different pads. I also want a polish / sealant that doesnt get dusty. someone please help me before my head explodes......

also whats the diff between 7424 vs 7336 PC ?


also , where can i get the PC and pads locally , in miami florida ? pepboys ?

[Turbo_435i]

ok, i found a video on the PC 7424, seems simple.

whats a good polish finish polish to use thats not dusty ?

[Turbo_435i]

ok heres what i came up with so far, let me know.

LAKE COUNTRY PADS
Yellow = severe swirl / scratches
Orange = moderate swirl / scratches
White = mild swirl / scratches
Gray = wax / sealant apply, no cut
Blue = wax apply

POLISH
Swirl remover
Finishing
Sealant
Wax

TOWELS
Microfiber towles
Lambswool pad LC-77-216, remove wax
Cobra microfiber bonnet,MB-1010,orange,covers lambswool


Wash car
Dry
Clay car
Mark pads(to show they’re rotating)
Apply small amounts of polish(note)

1. setup lighting
2. blue tape
3. Orange pad(swirl remover polish) #3 speed, 3-4 passes to apply.
4. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
5. Check swirls, rework if needed.

6. White pad(finish polish) #3 speed,3-4 passes to apply.
7. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
8. Check polished,rework if needed or hazing.

9. Blue pad(wax) #3 apply to coat.
10. Lambswool pad w / cobra bonnet to remove. Or towels to remove. # 4-5 speed.

[J-Sud]

Originally Posted by schybrid

ok heres what i came up with so far, let me know.

LAKE COUNTRY PADS
Yellow = severe swirl / scratches
Orange = moderate swirl / scratches
White = mild swirl / scratches
Gray = wax / sealant apply, no cut
Blue = wax apply

POLISH
Swirl remover
Finishing
Sealant
Wax

TOWELS
Microfiber towles
Lambswool pad LC-77-216, remove wax
Cobra microfiber bonnet,MB-1010,orange,covers lambswool


Wash car
Dry
Clay car
Mark pads(to show they’re rotating)
Apply small amounts of polish(note)

1. setup lighting
2. blue tape
3. Orange pad(swirl remover polish) #3 speed, 3-4 passes to apply.
4. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
5. Check swirls, rework if needed.

6. White pad(finish polish) #3 speed,3-4 passes to apply.
7. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
8. Check polished,rework if needed or hazing.

9. Blue pad(wax) #3 apply to coat.
10. Lambswool pad w / cobra bonnet to remove. Or towels to remove. # 4-5 speed.

Honestly when it comes to polishing i would use speed 6 on a PC. They dont correct 100% as is. I have a FLEX and use speed 6 to polish. And i would apply the sealant and wax by hand and to remove it. I really only use Orange and White pads.

if you have more questions check out Detailed Image Guide

[Turbo_435i]

What is a FLEX ?

[tintivilus]

Originally Posted by schybrid

What is a FLEX ?

http://www.detailedimage.com/Flex-M26/XC-3401-VRG-P128/

Stronger than a PC but not as dangerous as a rotary.

[haper]

here's what i used. while i'm not expert if should give you a starting point:

Products:
clay
clay lube
menzerna SIP
menzerna 106FF
JetSeal 109
1:1 Isopropyl Alcohol (IAP) / distilled water mix
Flex 3401
3M blue painters tape
250W Halogen lamp
3 LC CCS orange pads
2 LC CCS white pads
1 LC CCS grey / black pad
12 MF towels
Waffle Weave drying towel

What I did, in order:
washed
clayed
washed
taped
removed license plates
removed front grill

menzerna SIP w/ orange pads
menzerna 106FF w/ white pads
IPA wipe down
JetSeal 109 (1st coat dried over night, 2nd coat dried 4 hours)
removed tape
final wash

How long:
washing, clay and tape: 90 mins
SIP: 5 hrs
106FF: 3 hrs
JetSeal: 30 mins per coat

Comments:
Spent a lot already on the products listed, so I skipped the glaze and wax steps to save some cash. Will add a layer of wax next month.
Could have used better lighting, might purchase one more halogen lamp and associated stand.
Difficult to tell level of paint correction and the 3M Sun Gun is too expensive, I have to look harder for a brinkman light.


CCS Orange - Light Cutting Pads
use w/ menzerna SIP
prep pad by soaking in water (distilled if possible), ring out, place in terry cloth towel, spin w/ machine (in empty bucket to previde splattering)
nickel size of polish for 18 x 18 inch section
squirt three pea size dabs around the outer edge of pad
blot / rub polish from pad onto surface b4 turning on buffer to avoid splattering
start Flex at level 1 or 2 and move quickly to spread polish evenly
then up it to 5 or 6 moving 1 inch per second over lapping 50%
just b4 poilish breaks down drop to 3 and do one last pass to minimize hazeing
3 – 5 mins until broken down
as polish thins out lighten up the pressure and increase movement
stop once the polish breaks down (begins to dust)
remove w/ microfiber towel
the finish will not be perfect – it is normal as the SIP creates / leaves the smaller imperfections
might need to a spritz of 1:1 solution Isopropyl alcohol (IPA) / distilled water to help remove

CCS White - Polishing Foam Pads
use w/ menzerna 106FF (nano)
follow same process as SIP
all scratches, spider webs should be gone

CCS Blue - Finessing Foam Pad
use w/ some paste waxes and sealants – check w/ product first as some say using w/ buffer riuns the products effectiveness

[haper]

Originally Posted by schybrid

10. Lambswool pad w / cobra bonnet to remove. Or towels to remove. # 4-5 speed.

check the wax b4 applying by machine - some waxes, like zymol, specifically say not to use w/ a machine.

and i wouldn't even bother trying to remove your wax by machine. the pad will collect wax very quickly so you'll have to replace it often to prevent smearing the wax back onto the finish. if you follow the directions correctly, removing wax w/ MF by hand is very easy.

[tintivilus]

Originally Posted by haper

How long:
washing, clay and tape: 90 mins
SIP: 5 hrs
106FF: 3 hrs
JetSeal: 30 mins per coat

Holy crap, you work slow!

Just use the SIP where you need it. My last detail (my third real detail, fwiw) I just used SIP on a yellow pad on the hood (9 sections), trunk (3 sections), and a few spots that were particularly swirly (A pillars, front of roof) and just used 106FF on white over the whole vehicle -- worked like a charm!

SIP is pretty strong stuff; don't abuse it.

I strongly recommend not aiming for perfection the first time out; if you're anything like me you'll get impatient & frustrated and start getting sloppy. If you have a lot of marring it might take a few rounds to work it all out, and that's fine.

Don't bother glazing; better to fix the swirls than cover them, and your car will look nice for a lot longer. I don't use wax, either; I prefer durability to depth of shine, but it's purely personal preference.

Apply your sealant by hand. The microfiber-wrapped sponges seem to work pretty well. Be careful not to apply too much.

[Concours Finish]

Originally Posted by schybrid

ok heres what i came up with so far, let me know.

LAKE COUNTRY PADS
Yellow = severe swirl / scratches
Orange = moderate swirl / scratches
White = mild swirl / scratches
Gray = wax / sealant apply, no cut
Blue = wax apply

POLISH
Swirl remover
Finishing
Sealant
Wax

TOWELS
Microfiber towles
Lambswool pad LC-77-216, remove wax
Cobra microfiber bonnet,MB-1010,orange,covers lambswool


Wash car
Dry
Clay car
Mark pads(to show they’re rotating)
Apply small amounts of polish(note)

1. setup lighting
2. blue tape
3. Orange pad(swirl remover polish) #3 speed, 3-4 passes to apply.
4. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
5. Check swirls, rework if needed.

6. White pad(finish polish) #3 speed,3-4 passes to apply.
7. Then #5 speed,work 4-5 passes.
8. Check polished,rework if needed or hazing.

9. Blue pad(wax) #3 apply to coat.
10. Lambswool pad w / cobra bonnet to remove. Or towels to remove. # 4-5 speed.

Whoever gave the advice on the pads was a genius. On a more serious note, I would combine step 3-4 together and step 6-7 together, meaning you don't really need 3-4 passes at only speed 3 to apply polish. I would if anything start at speed 3 to spread polish, then immediately bump it to 5-6 for correction. I would also check progress after each pass. Other than that sounds like a good game plan.