[LAbeemer]

oh every name seemed to be taken so i figured spelling it different wouldnt matter. thanks for the 411 now I feel dumb with my name. guess I should just pretend to own one so i dont look so foolish lol

[StarrDlux]

quick go put some 100 octane in and dyno that! i want to see 20+psi dyno!

[Sniz]

this is old news, its a shame all V2 users are not aware of it. I would not run V2 w/ out a boost gauge. It is a design flaw that was figured out, which resulted in V3.

[jcarlucci1]

Its too bad v2 customers have to pay hundreds of dollars just to get their $1600 procede to work correctly..

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Its too bad v2 customers have to pay hundreds of dollars just to get their $1600 procede to work correctly..

Just out of curiousity, if this is really the case then why isn't there a free fix? Couldn't there be a class action against them if all these guys teamed up together? I guess I am just wondering how widespread the issue is.

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by StarrDlux

quick go put some 100 octane in and dyno that! i want to see 20+psi dyno!

+1

[jcarlucci1]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Just out of curiousity, if this is really the case then why isn't there a free fix? Couldn't there be a class action against them if all these guys teamed up together? I guess I am just wondering how widespread the issue is.

Seem to be pretty widespread judging from all the old posts about it..

[uberschnell]

Originally Posted by Sniz

this is old news, its a shame all V2 users are not aware of it. I would not run V2 w/ out a boost gauge. It is a design flaw that was figured out, which resulted in V3.

Old news?

(Shiv)-20psi? Really Eugen? Please tell me where you've seen this. Christ Eugen, you still can't even read a datalog correctly and yet you say this nonsense. It's one thing to be OCD about tuning. But at least have some knowledge to back it up. I hope to God they strip you of moderator status because you are anything but moderate. You passive aggressively start more sh$t than anyone else here

Qouted on 5/21/08

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[Sniz]

yup, look up all of Scalberts research

[E92Pilot]

Funny how I was thinking about the same conversation between shiv and eugen when I read about V2 boost spikes. Sounds like shiv is the one who is full of shit....

Shiv knew it was going on, but knew everyone was so nieve in believing his data. Good to see people are getting boost gauges and smartening up.

[Mr. 5]

Welcome to the club!
Lower your settings before you break something!
Overboosting is a common thing with V2.

Originally Posted by pino335

Hey Guys!

I'm not sure what to do! I installed a Autometer ultralight analog gauge last week. Everything was working perfect, boost showing just under 15psi with the occasional spike to 16psi, this is at ambient temperatures of around 65 degrees F.

I am running V2 with a dual cone intake, my user settings on the V2 are 92%.

Yesterday and today the temperature climbed into the high 80's and my car started showing sustained boost at 20PSI!!! I almost shit myself. I hooked up the laptop and dropped the settings down the 88%. Car felt slower but was still showing high boost on the gauge. Then I did a couple data logged runs, and the procede software showed max boost of 13.8psi, even as the gauge was showing 20psi...

I have my gauge mounted at the T between the diverter valves.

Is it possible for Procede data log to be wrong??? Or for a brand new analog gauge to show perfect one day and then be so messed up the next day...?

Any help would be much appreciated!! Shiv if you could chime in that would be great too!

[SteelTorque]

Shiv/Vishnu are ridiculous.

Now the temps are higher, my car knocked a few times in the past few days. I need to lower my tq values now.

I will never but another Vishnu product. I hope they go out of business. Their lack of integrity and honesty is amazing.

But, hey, they got more of you suckers to buy their V3 for $400, "because this one doesn't have boost spikes". This should have been a free fix because it was a big flaw.

Do you see Microsoft charging you for Windows Automatic Updates and Fixes? NO! Of course not!

I seriously doubt Shiv's tunning experience and knowledge. People like him make me sick.

[LambOfGod]

Originally Posted by slow_335

Does anybody else think this is a big flaw in V2 and customers should have received a free upgrade which corrected these issues (aka V3)?

I've been saying is all along and the owner of Vishnu says there isn't a problem with V2. Most seem to believe that it is "Ok" to shell out another $376 for V3 when they just spent $150 for V2. I don't agree and I want the V2 product fixed.

[SteelTorque]

Originally Posted by LambOfGod

I've been saying is all along and the owner of Vishnu says there isn't a problem with V2. Most seem to believe that it is "Ok" to shell out another $376 for V3 when they just spent $150 for V2. I don't agree and I want the V2 product fixed.

+13289598754334543534765976

[LambOfGod]

Originally Posted by lawdude

A beemer is a BMW motorcycle. A bimmer is a car. I assumed you had a bike from your nick.

BTW guys, this over-boost on a V2 with UT values set too high is really old news.

I did not no that. Thanks! Beemer/Bimmer.

[Sniz]

completely agree this should not be happening. I also think BMW should have included a boost gauge on a turbo motor.

[E92Pilot]

Originally Posted by Sniz

completely agree this should not be happening. I also think BMW should have included a boost gauge on a turbo motor.

They don't want you to know.....

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by LambOfGod

I did not no that. Thanks! Beemer/Bimmer.

You also did not KNOW how to spell KNOW..... (just messing with you)

[hotrod2448]

Originally Posted by slow_335

Does anybody else think this is a big flaw in V2 and customers should have received a free upgrade which corrected these issues (aka V3)?

You are not the only one. Supposedly it's just car with free flowing mods (intake, DP's, etc..) that are at risk but, it seems kind of BS. The first day it was 90ish around here I stood on it pretty hard after driving easy for a few days, I heard a slight ping and immediately felt a pretty major mis (ECU pulling timing).

When I let off the gas and eased back on it everything was fine but, something obviously caused the car to knock and I'm sure it wasn't bad gas. Whether it was the DME getting ballsy with timing from driving easy or over boosting I'm not sure but, either way it shouldn't do that and I have a problem spending another $350+ to fix it.

[e.n335]

(Shiv)-20psi? Really Eugen? Please tell me where you've seen this. Christ Eugen, you still can't even read a datalog correctly and yet you say this nonsense. It's one thing to be OCD about tuning. But at least have some knowledge to back it up. I hope to God they strip you of moderator status because you are anything but moderate. You passive aggressively start more sh$t than anyone else here.

Quoted on 5/21/08

It's simple - Shiv had something to loose, I ~ only ~ have been his customer and a beta-tester. Guys, take care with V2, go back to 87-88 % UT settings and use 93 octane gas. Sell the PROcede V2 or upgrade to V3.

The thing why I am really disappointed is that Shiv knew / knows this issue and asked us beta-testers to beat the shit out of the car. I never did, I always used a boost gauge and never overestimated Shiv's capabilities. However, this time has gone.

BTW, the Noelle tune does a quite good job .

Thanks,
Eugen

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by pino335

Hey Guys!

I'm not sure what to do! I installed a Autometer ultralight analog gauge last week. Everything was working perfect, boost showing just under 15psi with the occasional spike to 16psi, this is at ambient temperatures of around 65 degrees F.

I am running V2 with a dual cone intake, my user settings on the V2 are 92%.

Yesterday and today the temperature climbed into the high 80's and my car started showing sustained boost at 20PSI!!! I almost shit myself. I hooked up the laptop and dropped the settings down the 88%. Car felt slower but was still showing high boost on the gauge. Then I did a couple data logged runs, and the procede software showed max boost of 13.8psi, even as the gauge was showing 20psi...

I have my gauge mounted at the T between the diverter valves.

Is it possible for Procede data log to be wrong??? Or for a brand new analog gauge to show perfect one day and then be so messed up the next day...?

Any help would be much appreciated!! Shiv if you could chime in that would be great too!

Ok... there's a few things we can look at. But let's start here... The only time I have seen a sustained overboost conditions is when there is a leak in the vacuum/boost lines that go to the top of the blow off valves. When this happens, the top of the valve doesn't get pressurized as it should. And with only spring pressure holding it closed, the diaphragm will randomly crack open causing a slight loss of boost. The ECU will compensate for this by dialing in more wastegate duty cycle. And when the diaphragm doesn't crack open, you are left with a big 20psi boost spike. I have seen this in at least 3 cars that have come to me for the problem you are describing. If this is your case, there is a quick fix.

To rule this distinct possibility out, tie wrap all the vacuum lines that you intercepted for your boost gauge. And then drive around your car with 0% user torque (should be ~7-8psi, not 10psi as you previously reported) for 10-15 minutes. Once boost is stable (no oscillations or spikes), then you can raise UT to 50%, then 75% then 90%. You should not see anything more than 15psi.

Also, make sure that you're boost gauge reads 0psi with the engine not running. Autometers are notorious for going out of calibration. You'll know if this is happening if the needle shows boost with the car not running.

Shiv

[XLR8MF]

Come on! He said sustained 20 psi like 5 billion times. Not SPIKE. Listen to the few who are telling you to sell it and go elsewhere. 20psi sustained will cause damage if not done already.