DYNO RESULTS: V3 + completely catless + intake + shitty conditions

jpsimon · 06-29-2008, 01:06 PM

No this is good. I think there are lots of people who dont realize how much of a difference it really makes.

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Not to go off topic but here is a comparison between bad cooling and good cooling.

To the OP: If you feel this post is off-topic please let me know and I will remove it. I just feel it shows exactly what the fan conditions can do.

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Mr. 5 · 06-29-2008, 01:23 PM

So last time you had 327 whp and 365 wtq with just a V2 and now you have 369 whp and 376 torque.

That's really good man!
An increase of 42 whp and 12 foot pounds of torque.

You didn't happen to take boost readings before and after did you?
The reason why I ask is because it would be nice to see the boost in the upper RPM range of V2 and compare to the rpm range of V3.

Were the settings in the V3 the default settings?
I'm assuming a stage 2 map of course.

Great job man!

e90AW335i · 06-29-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

So last time you had 327 whp and 365 wtq with just a V2 and now you have 369 whp and 376 torque.

That's really good man!
An increase of 42 whp and 12 foot pounds of torque.

You didn't happen to take boost readings before and after did you?
The reason why I ask is because it would be nice to see the boost in the upper RPM range of V2 and compare to the rpm range of V3.

Were the settings in the V3 the default settings?
I'm assuming a stage 2 map of course.

Great job man!

Something to keep in mind is that on the V2 he was running 14.1psi, with V3 he is probably running 15.5psi or so.

He added the following mods in comparasion to the first dyno:

Dual Cone Intake
Catless DPs
Completely Catless DP back exhaust (AE)
PROcede V3 upgrade

Between those mods above he gain 42rwhp in bad conditions, that is really good! I think once the fan situation is taken care of the OP will put down 10-20rwhp more up top.

Once again, congrats again to the OP!

jpsimon · 06-29-2008, 02:02 PM

also one thing to note about the old numbers: the 327/365 was done in 50 degree weather vs. 90 degrees for this new one. But we also have to remember these are two different dynos.. But its still an interesting comparison

Mr. 5 · 06-29-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

also one thing to note about the old numbers: the 327/365 was done in 50 degree weather vs. 90 degrees for this new one. But we also have to remember these are two different dynos.. But its still an interesting comparison

Oh no.
You didn't go back to the same dyno?
Or, are you saying that they were just done on different days?

jpsimon · 06-29-2008, 02:47 PM

different dynos. I went to the original dyno but my car was too low(I wasn't lowered when I went originally) to go on the rollers (they are recessed). So I had to goto a different dyno that didn't have recessed rollers

SHOTGUN · 06-29-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

different dynos. I went to the original dyno but my car was too low(I wasn't lowered when I went originally) to go on the rollers (they are recessed). So I had to goto a different dyno that didn't have recessed rollers

amazing #'s.

you will get at least 10hp more with cooler temps.
is your car auto or manual?

Mr. 5 · 06-29-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

different dynos. I went to the original dyno but my car was too low(I wasn't lowered when I went originally) to go on the rollers (they are recessed). So I had to goto a different dyno that didn't have recessed rollers

Then I hate to say it, but I don't know if you gained that much then over the other dyno. If the other dyno was dyno dynamics and this dyno was a dynojet then some of the increase was just changing dynos.

jpsimon · 06-29-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Then I hate to say it, but I don't know if you gained that much then over the other dyno. If the other dyno was dyno dynamics and this dyno was a dynojet then some of the increase was just changing dynos.

we will never know. Different dynos, different days, under vastly different conditions. If it was 40 degrees cooler the numbers would be quite a bit higher this time. There are many variables obviously. From now on I'll just be going to this new dyno so when it is cooler we will see what happens

I can tell you this much: the car feels even stronger than a 40whp difference.

Curt2000 · 06-29-2008, 06:17 PM

awaiting vid!

Lane · 06-30-2008, 04:08 AM

Dyno graphs? Are these corrected figures?

NatesGr8 · 06-30-2008, 11:48 AM

+1 for the video

jpsimon · 07-02-2008, 01:50 PM

hey all: sorry for the delay. video will be posted tonight if I get some free time

but other GOOD news: I'm going to a different dyno this coming saturday at 8am. They have a PROPER fan setup, and have baseline 335 numbers. So not only will i have something good to compare it to... i'll have numbers that should more accurately represent my tune (aka higher due to proper setup).

dzenno · 07-03-2008, 01:32 AM

Good #s bro...i've got my AE exhaust as well finally, got it installed today...its unbeliiiievable

my mods are almost the same as yours (Catless + V3 + open element intake) so I'll probably be in the neighbourhood of the same numbers...i'll be dynoing most likely this Friday (or maybe even tomorrow)...

jpsimon · 07-03-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Good #s bro...i've got my AE exhaust as well finally, got it installed today...its unbeliiiievable

my mods are almost the same as yours (Catless + V3 + open element intake) so I'll probably be in the neighbourhood of the same numbers...i'll be dynoing most likely this Friday (or maybe even tomorrow)...

kickass! i'm going back to a better dyno on saturday

Nick@aep · 07-03-2008, 02:31 PM

Awesome numbers, regardless of the conditions. Cant wait to see what you get on saturday!

grkmec · 07-03-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

kickass! i'm going back to a better dyno on saturday

JPSIMON - You are going to the same dyno I got my baseline and dinan dynos done at. If you want to run your car against my baseline and dinan, tell George to plot your graphs against the runs in the folder marked Tony 335xi. Good luck bro!

BTW, here are my numbers for comparison:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142818

e90AW335i · 07-03-2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grkmec

JPSIMON - You are going to the same dyno I got my baseline and dinan dynos done at. If you want to run your car against my baseline and dinan, tell George to plot your graphs against the runs in the folder marked Tony 335xi. Good luck bro!

BTW, here are my numbers for comparison:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142818

Hopefully he is just going to get them on a flash drive so he can plot them against a bunch of different tunes.

jpsimon · 07-04-2008, 04:40 AM

ah, great to know! it'll be nice to plot it vs. stock 335xi numbers on the same dyno!!!

and yeah, as e90 said: i'll be getting the files onto a flash drive so we can compare it to whatever we want after.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grkmec

JPSIMON - You are going to the same dyno I got my baseline and dinan dynos done at. If you want to run your car against my baseline and dinan, tell George to plot your graphs against the runs in the folder marked Tony 335xi. Good luck bro!

BTW, here are my numbers for comparison:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142818

jpsimon · 07-04-2008, 04:42 AM

grkmec - do you remember what the ambient temperature was when you ran your car stock on ICS's dyno?

grkmec · 07-04-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

grkmec - do you remember what the ambient temperature was when you ran your car stock on ICS's dyno?

Yea, it was about 58 degrees. For the dinan runs it was about 80 degrees

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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	also one thing to note about the old numbers: the 327/365 was done in 50 degree weather vs. 90 degrees for this new one. But we also have to remember these are two different dynos.. But its still an interesting comparison
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	different dynos. I went to the original dyno but my car was too low(I wasn't lowered when I went originally) to go on the rollers (they are recessed). So I had to goto a different dyno that didn't have recessed rollers
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	hey all: sorry for the delay. video will be posted tonight if I get some free time but other GOOD news: I'm going to a different dyno this coming saturday at 8am. They have a PROPER fan setup, and have baseline 335 numbers. So not only will i have something good to compare it to... i'll have numbers that should more accurately represent my tune (aka higher due to proper setup). Last edited by jpsimon; 07-02-2008 at 02:13 PM..
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dzenno Banned 298 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	Good #s bro...i've got my AE exhaust as well finally, got it installed today...its unbeliiiievable my mods are almost the same as yours (Catless + V3 + open element intake) so I'll probably be in the neighbourhood of the same numbers...i'll be dynoing most likely this Friday (or maybe even tomorrow)...
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	grkmec - do you remember what the ambient temperature was when you ran your car stock on ICS's dyno?
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