[SV Concepts III]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Jlevi, I have to say you are my choice when it comes to ordering a lot of stuff online. I think your staff is incredibly friendly and I will always do business with you in the future. However, expensive serves a purpose, but it is not an all inclusive thing. Spending extra to buy a quality fitting body part is worth it. Spending extra on carbon fiber to get high quality is worth it. Spending extra to get a sit down meal vs. McDonald's is worth it. Etc. Spending extra money on a piece of metal that does nothing for performance, and is just a cheap "look enhancement mod" is a total waste of money IMO. Fitament is irrelevant too since they all fit a 2.25" exhaust identically. It is not like we are talking about body parts. If you sold the less expensive Magnaflows, I guarantee that you would make more money in the long haul because the price for the DiMisa is rediculous. So many of us will buy the Magnaflows (one AW posts pics) and would rather give you the money, but since we cannot our money goes elsewhere.

Again, Jlevi I hope you understand I think you are an A+ vendor.

Thank you for the kind words and support. Certainly people have the option to go with a cheaper magnaflow version. I never doubted that and in fact encourage it if you do not find the tips that important. For those that want something individually built and hand designed for the 335, the DiMisa tips are the way to go. You are spending more but are getting a guaranteed level of quality, durability, construction and fit.

I am not sure if you are familiar with the E46 Angel Eye market but back in the day, there were kits for $30 on ebay and $300 through forum vendors. They did the same thing...lighted rings that went into your headlight. The difference being the ring design on the $300 version was specifically built for these headlights with better clipping systems, full installation harness, install guide, lifetime warranty, proven fit, proven durability etc...To some, it wasn't worth the extra cost so they went with ebay. For many others, the peace of mind and time saved with a complete purpose built kit was more than worth it.

With all that said, there are several options out there- some cheap, some expensive. Choose the setup that you prefer based on your budget and desire for quality.

[AV9]

and what would you say if our desire for quality is HIGH! and the budget is LOW?
haha just messing...

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

While I do understand your point, you are one that has spent decent money on an exhaust setup for this car and will be biased toward it.

I never said complete exhaust (including downpipes). By exhaust, we are referring to aftermarket muffler setups, such as the Eisanmann and so on. We aren't talking about setups like yours which have DP's and so on.

DP's are worth it, aftermarket muffler setups are not.

What's funny is that I seriously spent under 500 for my first so called "DP back" exhaust. People think that if nobody makes something that it can't be done. Someone once questioned me about me having high flow cats in the places of the secondaries. They asked, "Do you have the supersprint ones?"
I said NO, and they told me that I couldn't have had HFCs then because nobody else makes them. Dude, I cut out the secondaries and installed HFC cats.
What's so hard about doing that?

Check this out:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...78&postcount=1

I took my car to a muffler shop after purchasing the rear section of the UR exhaust. After seeing what the rear section of the exhaust was, I was a little ticked because I could have bought the mufflers myself.
The link explains each part number so anyone can do this.

I paid seriously $80 for the labor. I should have paid more but that's what he charged me. This consisted of the following:

The crushed piping was changed.
The secondary cats are deleted.
Installed mufflers.

The rear mufflers are Magnaflow Part #14336. (Aprox $80 each)
The tips are Magnaflow, Part #35125 (Aprox $45 each)
The stock resonator was replaced with Magnaflow X pipe Part #10791.(Optional aprox $80)

High Flow Cats were added after for about 60 in labor and they were 80 each.

I got a little used to the Magnaflow sound and thought that the single muffler would take more advantage of the scavaging affect sound so I paid $400 for the Borla single muffler and that's what's on my car now.

The DPs were added of course for the quick turbo sppoling and throttle response.

Yes, I have spent money on this exhaust, but IMO, I have done it wisely!
Exhaust are so subjective!

If one really likes the stock sound but not the tips then Disma sounds like a great idea, but if a person wants to increase their power and go for a different sound then do something about it! You can do it for a lot less money than you think!

[i2iSTUDIOS]

how does one change tips? Do they need to be cut off?

[323d]

Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS

how does one change tips? Do they need to be cut off?

no u just weld it on the oem one ~

bascially, u get a good muffler shop with the right tools to cut your penis, i mean muffler tips off, and then they re-weld the new tips.

i also don't get how tips will "increase" sound.. is probably just a mental thing like drop in filters.

[SV Concepts III]

Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS

how does one change tips? Do they need to be cut off?

Yep, just have a muffler shop cut off your old tips and weld on the new ones.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

Thank you for the kind words and support. Certainly people have the option to go with a cheaper magnaflow version. I never doubted that and in fact encourage it if you do not find the tips that important. For those that want something individually built and hand designed for the 335, the DiMisa tips are the way to go. You are spending more but are getting a guaranteed level of quality, durability, construction and fit.

I am not sure if you are familiar with the E46 Angel Eye market but back in the day, there were kits for $30 on ebay and $300 through forum vendors. They did the same thing...lighted rings that went into your headlight. The difference being the ring design on the $300 version was specifically built for these headlights with better clipping systems, full installation harness, install guide, lifetime warranty, proven fit, proven durability etc...To some, it wasn't worth the extra cost so they went with ebay. For many others, the peace of mind and time saved with a complete purpose built kit was more than worth it.

With all that said, there are several options out there- some cheap, some expensive. Choose the setup that you prefer based on your budget and desire for quality.

Do you really think that something welded onto your exhause is going to make a difference if it was made for the 335i or not? It is simple, just match up the piping size... end of story. That is my only point.

[dimisa1977]

magna flow makes a decent tip, but the magna flow logo is emblazoned on it...

this is just one of the reasons why folks have gravitated towards the dimisa tip.

and regarding the sound, i assure you there's a distinct difference.

in fact, there is also a difference in sound between our V 3.5 and V 4.0

[dimisa1977]

Originally Posted by e.n335

I have the 4 inch Dimisa tips on the exhaust ( M-sport bumper ). The mod is worth the price and the exhaust sounds very nice ( golf tee mod done as well ). Great product !

thanks, e!

post up some pics...your car is a beauty!

[Neema]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Actually 140 a pair if you an E90post member.

They aren't stained looking tips. They are polished out to a brilliant lusted much like your DPE lips.

Oh I see, FWIW my lips are chrome, not polished

[SV Concepts III]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Do you really think that something welded onto your exhause is going to make a difference if it was made for the 335i or not? It is simple, just match up the piping size... end of story. That is my only point.

There are a lot of factors that go into the tip design besides simple diameter- angle, sizing, shape, how far it sticks out etc...I am not saying you can't get a Magnaflow to sit correctly, but the DiMisa tips will be a more straight forward install given that they were designed specifically and only for the 335 application.

[MarinoB]

just ordered 4 inch rolled Gibson tips....as far as the logo goes ill install it with the logo facing down. Personally I much prefer a rolled tip.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

What's funny is that I seriously spent under 500 for my first so called "DP back" exhaust. People think that if nobody makes something that it can't be done. Someone once questioned me about me having high flow cats in the places of the secondaries. They asked, "Do you have the supersprint ones?"
I said NO, and they told me that I couldn't have had HFCs then because nobody else makes them. Dude, I cut out the secondaries and installed HFC cats.
What's so hard about doing that?

Check this out:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...78&postcount=1

I took my car to a muffler shop after purchasing the rear section of the UR exhaust. After seeing what the rear section of the exhaust was, I was a little ticked because I could have bought the mufflers myself.
The link explains each part number so anyone can do this.

I paid seriously $80 for the labor. I should have paid more but that's what he charged me. This consisted of the following:

The crushed piping was changed.
The secondary cats are deleted.
Installed mufflers.

The rear mufflers are Magnaflow Part #14336. (Aprox $80 each)
The tips are Magnaflow, Part #35125 (Aprox $45 each)
The stock resonator was replaced with Magnaflow X pipe Part #10791.(Optional aprox $80)

High Flow Cats were added after for about 60 in labor and they were 80 each.

I got a little used to the Magnaflow sound and thought that the single muffler would take more advantage of the scavaging affect sound so I paid $400 for the Borla single muffler and that's what's on my car now.

The DPs were added of course for the quick turbo sppoling and throttle response.

Yes, I have spent money on this exhaust, but IMO, I have done it wisely!
Exhaust are so subjective!

If one really likes the stock sound but not the tips then Disma sounds like a great idea, but if a person wants to increase their power and go for a different sound then do something about it! You can do it for a lot less money than you think!

More power too you man, I applaud you for doing it your way because the exhausts sold for this car are simply NOT worth it. I know exactly what you are talking about, this is what I do for a living. I just don't prefer to advertise and solicit just yet on this forum. If you are ever interested, especially since you are local to me, you can PM or shoot me an email regarding my company and I. It would definitely be worth your while.

Generally a custom built full mandrel bent turbo back exhaust with quality mufflers costs about 500-650 to make.

Magnaflow makes decent mufflers, but its not the only option. They do make the best looking mufflers though for a variety of applications.

Were you at M.O.M.? Would have been cool to chat with you. I didn't stay very long. Hit me up sometime, your close by.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

Oh I see, FWIW my lips are chrome, not polished

That's cool. Point was, the Dimisa tips are shiny like your wheels, polished, chrome, whatever.

[SV Concepts]

I don't think there's any need for us or JP to defend the product, really.
Everyone here knows it is quality. Nobody is arguing that. So why defend it?

The bone of contention is "is it worth it?"
Well... that's not something Nick, JP, or myself can answer for you. And if you read our responses - we're not trying to. It may not be worth it to you. $80,000 may not be worth it to you for an M3. It's worth it to someone, though, and that's why people buy it. So it isn't really fair for you to project your opinions or values onto the product as if it's fact, now is it?

The Facts are:
-Dimisa tips are a high quality, proven product with guaranteed warranty and top notch customer service. It is a specialty product made for the BMW 3 Series, and therefore, the service you get will be catered to you as a BMW owner and enthusiast
-The Dimisa tips are a premium product geared at and designed for a premium car
-The Dimisa tips are $175 unless you call or email, in which case they can be had for only $140
-There are cheaper tips out there if you want them - nobody is denying that. If you want to save the money, go for it.
-We still believe our product is superior. You may not believe that, or you may believe it is superior, but not superior enough to justify paying a little bit more. That, again, is your decision.

As Nick stated, we have made a successful and respected business out of selling premium parts. We could sell $30 angel eyes, $400 carbon fiber hoods, and $2200 forged wheels. We could sell them all day, in fact. But in the long run, that is not what we believe in. Though the volumes may be lower, and sometimes the margins pretty scrappy, we believe that every part you put on your car should be of the top quality. We sell some replicas, but only if we inspect the quality. We know that if you're looking to save some money, you can probably get better prices on eBay. And we respect that. But we also have learned that if we provide top quality products, with unbeatable customer service, people will choose to shop with us over eBay or anywhere else for that matter. And, with this in mind, we cut no corners when it comes to product and customer service costs.

Sorry for the long reply guys!
JL

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Again, JLevi, I don't want you to think I am saying a thing negative about you. You guys are one of the single best vendors on this site without a doubt.

[SV Concepts III]

Not at all, appreciate the support as always

[SV Concepts]

Furthermore, I really appreciate the perspective. We sometimes take it for granted that people share our viewpoint... but often they do not, and we need to keep the customer in mind ultimately!