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      07-26-2008, 10:39 PM   #1
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Seeing swirls...

When detailing, halogen lamps don't really reveal everything unless looked at with an angle. That is also killing my eyes, so I was looking for a new way to spot swirl marks.

I know of the 3M Sun Gun or the Brinkman something light. Sun Gun is freakin expensive and the brinkman seems to be not worth the money for its purpose! So outside of those, what else is there?

Here's what another detailer suggested to me.

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Yo, a tip I found out from working on mainly Toyota/Lexus paint. An LED headlamp with 4-6 LEDs works great to help see the swirls. If you can get one with a red LED option with it then that works great as well. Sure it may look funky when you wear it but you see the imperfections a lot better and its hands free so you can use both hands at the same time
Yeah we'd look pretty stupid and like we're going exploring for a while, but if he can see swirls efficiently like this, that would be great! Anyone else try this? I'm about to buy a head lamp just to try it
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      07-26-2008, 11:33 PM   #2
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      07-27-2008, 12:20 AM   #3
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From the guy who used clay on a very dirty car and used it on a black car afterwards.

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      07-27-2008, 12:25 AM   #4
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I agree with you completely Ben. Only on Black cars will your see those "picture perfect" swirls. On metallics, especially silver, it is extremely difficult. Thankfully, nobody has asked for a multi-step polish on silver.
Hmmm... should I be asking?
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From the guy who used clay on a very dirty car and used it on a black car afterwards.

Wow you guys are harsh....

CM1500 is a good one
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      07-27-2008, 01:26 AM   #6
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that hurts my eyes so i was lookin' for an alternative

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From the guy who used clay on a very dirty car and used it on a black car afterwards.

you are too mean lol

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I agree with you completely Ben. Only on Black cars will your see those "picture perfect" swirls. On metallics, especially silver, it is extremely difficult. Thankfully, nobody has asked for a multi-step polish on silver.

Until another solution is found, I just close my garage, kill the lights and just keep looking at angles.
yeah i've been doing that too but it also tries to burn my retina!

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Wow you guys are harsh....

CM1500 is a good one
CM1500? what is it?
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Why is the brinkman not worth it. Cost 25 bucks and a review done a long time ago showed that although not as strong as the 3m sun gun, it was still a very good light.
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never used this myself but heard good stuff about it. It like a sun gun..used for colormatching.... for half the price...

http://www.detailersdomain.com/index...ROD&ProdID=328
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Why is the brinkman not worth it. Cost 25 bucks and a review done a long time ago showed that although not as strong as the 3m sun gun, it was still a very good light.
from what i hear, you've got to angle it to see imperfections. i don't really want to have to take that much time since it'd be exactly what i'd do with my halogen lights already. i'm looking for anything to cut down the time i have to polish the car. i probably spend a good hour trying to look at every section i polish to see if i corrected it

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never used this myself but heard good stuff about it. It like a sun gun..used for colormatching.... for half the price...

http://www.detailersdomain.com/index...ROD&ProdID=328
that is pretty expensive too! thanks for the suggestion and i'll look into this too
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Wow you guys are harsh....
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you are too mean lol
Well, he was being a smart-ass. He's not an authority on detailing so he should have no business responding here. EVEN I KNOW NOT to use dirty clay on any car, let alone a black car.
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Hmmm... should I be asking?
I think I'm good, so thankfully, I won't be asking for one.

But I would like to attend a VD Detailing clinic if you're willing to have one.
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