[G30M]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

If no reputable source / legitimate website is posting I guess I'm just not that interested.

as i said, how can anyone on this forum verify their legitimacy i have no idea but everyone on this forum seems to know they are legit

[Killed by Death]

BTW,,,,what's her name looks pretty good.

I still prefer Geri

Hope CH gets to keep her.

[GuidoK]

Another strange thing about the files is, that they were sent to all the team bosses, but also all the press reporters that recieved a press pass for all the races of this year.

If the files were sent by CH's assistant, how did she get those email addresses? That she has access to the direct email addresses of the team bosses I believe, that something like that is known within RBR, but the press reporters of this year?
To me that's more FOM domain, so that could mean someone from FOM is in on it too....

...just speculating...

[3798j]

Has either RBR or CH declared the files as fakes? If they are made up, it seems strange neither has proclaimed it.

[Sneaky Pete]

The files are fairly tame...but it appears that they had an affair, she ended it but CH didn't want to end it....and started to lean on her a bit.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Another strange thing about the files is, that they were sent to all the team bosses, but also all the press reporters that recieved a press pass for all the races of this year.

If the files were sent by CH's assistant, how did she get those email addresses? That she has access to the direct email addresses of the team bosses I believe, that something like that is known within RBR, but the press reporters of this year?
To me that's more FOM domain, so that could mean someone from FOM is in on it too....

...just speculating...

Good point, never thought of it that way

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Has either RBR or CH declared the files as fakes? If they are made up, it seems strange neither has proclaimed it.

CH has just reiterated that he has been cleared as a person in the issue in a statment which made clear it was his comment and not that of Redbull / the team.

Other than that nobody had made a comment about it. Ben Salem has comment it’s not good for the sport today I believe.

[3798j]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

CH has just reiterated that he has been cleared as a person in the issue in a statment which made clear it was his comment and not that of Redbull / the team.

Other than that nobody had made a comment about it. Ben Salem has comment it’s not good for the sport today I believe.

I've read CH's comments about being cleared by the investigation, but I haven't seen any denial by him on the legitimacy of the file drop...so his questionable requests and comments to her are probably true.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by 3798j

I've read CH's comments about being cleared by the investigation, but I haven't seen any denial by him on the legitimacy of the file drop...so his questionable requests and comments to her are probably true.

the silence is deafening

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

The files are fairly tame...but it appears that they had an affair, she ended it but CH didn't want to end it....and started to lean on her a bit.

I still can't find the damn things, or her name/picture. I think something was posted on Reddit, but it's gone now.

[iamwingman]

Originally Posted by 3798j

I've read CH's comments about being cleared by the investigation, but I haven't seen any denial by him on the legitimacy of the file drop...so his questionable requests and comments to her are probably true.

I think people have the wrong idea about “being cleared” by the investigators. I think this investigation was regarding whether they can fire Horner for cause. He has a hugely expensive and ironclad contract to run that team. They were checking to see if they have enough to fire him with cause and not have to pay him for the rest of his contract, which could be upwards of 100 million or even multiples of that. Him being cleared doesn’t mean he didn’t do this. It means it’s not bad enough to be fired for cause. At least that’s hay this looks like to me. But these being leaked may change that, because there may be a clause that includes damaging the reputation of the brand. Which, now with the leaks, has definitely happened.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Considering the state of journalism these days he is probably writing it right now.

Horner is undergoing a kind of blackmail .
This situation starts to look like a crime !

And we ? We are not allowed to mention her name..
Feels like defending a serial killer in court !

One thing is for sure : This plan and the excecution of it , didn't came from one single person.
Hundreds got mail in the paddock and +/- 200 international media journalists got the leaked ( fake or not ) information !

Who the f@ck knows the 300 + private email addresses from 300 + persons from all over the world ?
This didn't came from just 'one woman . This is the work of a criminal organisation !


As I said : This Isn't over yet ....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

BTW,,,,what's her name looks pretty good.

I still prefer Geri

Hope CH gets to keep her.

Geri can take a lot . Geri is a Spice Girl my friend !

[FC4]

Not sure what you boomers are going on about, but it’s not unreasonable for CH’s personal assistant to have access to and know everyone’s email address.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by FC4

what you boomers

Us boomers?
Do you even know the meaning of the word?
I'm not a boomer...

Originally Posted by FC4

to have access to and know everyone’s email address.

Everyone's email address?
Really everyone? You mean she has my email address too?

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by FC4

Not sure what you boomers are going on about, but it’s not unreasonable for CH’s personal assistant to have access to and know everyone’s email address.

Boomers? Gen X here thank you!!!!

[FC4]

LOL ok fine. Haven’t kept track of who said what, but from the fear of clicking a Google Drive link, questioning the validity of what are obviously real screenshots, to outright dismissal because it’s not yet reported by the CBS Evening News…it was giving boomer vibes. I take it back.

Regardless, the idea that the person who's job it was to write CH’s emails having access to the email addresses of all team bosses/media/etc shouldn’t be all that shocking

[M3WC]

I honestly don't think the woman is behind the leaks. She deleted her existence on the internet. She seems to be embarrassed of the relationship. If she wanted revenge or more money, she would be doing the opposite of hiding.

By now she is not the only one in possession of the supposed messages. Who showed them to the De Telegraaf reporter...start there? I bet is wasn't the woman. It was someone within RB with an axe to grind. This started as a smear campaign and is continuing as one.

[G30M]

EDIT: sorry those aren't words of the person, just words of a "relative", please ignore this post

Originally Posted by M3WC

I honestly don't think the woman is behind the leaks. She deleted her existence on the internet. She seems to be embarrassed of the relationship. If she wanted revenge or more money, she would be doing the opposite of hiding.

By now she is not the only one in possession of the supposed messages. Who showed them to the De Telegraaf reporter...start there? I bet is wasn't the woman. It was someone within RB with an axe to grind. This started as a smear campaign and is continuing as one.

A relative of the female employee said: 'My reaction to all this is that it is disgusting. In the words of Red Bull, Christian Horner has been cleared but I think many people look at that answer and can't quite fathom out the truth behind it.

'It's obviously not going to rest now because of these leaks. I wasn't aware of the messages prior to them being picked up by the media and I have no idea at all who is responsible for the leak.

'You always believe your own, don't you? I haven't read the text messages but there was never any relationship between her and Christian - God, no. She doesn't discuss that sort of stuff with us.

'If you work for a person like him, you live with many pieces of information that are not to be disclosed. She certainly hasn't spoken to me about it.'

The source went on: 'We speak every day and she's very unhappy - of course. In her way of thinking it's all very one-sided and she's been crucified.

'Are the Red Bull investigation team independent? Who knows? They've made comparisons in the newspapers about Christian being grilled for 12 hours or so…well how many hours was she grilled for? They don't ask that question, but it is a lot more than that.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...messaging.html

[G30M]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26302...xting-scandal/

Red Bull are investigating claims that an unknown player connected to the team orchestrated the WhatsApp leak and acted as a “puppet master”.

“It seems to have been calculated to cause maximum damage to Christian’s career, humiliating him just 24 hours before the F1 season begins.

[lens]

Originally Posted by g21

but we don't know any of the ifs whether the ifs are true or not

why are you assuming the lady is evil and the guy is the victim?

we don't know that

Why are you assuming the guy is evil and the lady is the victim?

Nobody can validate those WhatsApp message, anyone can spoof them.


Who says they ate cocoa puffs and they're going to bed?

It looks like it was written by a 12 year old.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by lens

Why are you assuming the guy is evil and the lady is the victim?

Nobody can validate those WhatsApp message, anyone can spoof them.


Who says they ate cocoa puffs and they're going to bed?

It looks like it was written by a 12 year old.

I'm not assuming anything other than someone/some people is trying to get rid of CH but I don't know who