[Artemis]

"Euro 7: Parliament adopts measures to reduce road transport emissions" (March 13, 2024):
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...port-emissions

"Euro 7 deal passes major hurdle, strengthening Europe’s position as world leader in emission standards" (March 13, 2024):
https://www.acea.auto/press-release/...ion-standards/

More stringent air pollutant emissions standards for combustion-engine vehicles, regardless of the fuel used.

Adopted by the European Parliament. Council needs to formally approve the agreement as well before it can enter into force.

[Efthreeoh]

One upmanship.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

One upmanship.

This seems pretty good actually reading the bit on the ACEA site:

For passenger cars and vans, the current Euro 6 test conditions and exhaust emissions limits will be maintained. For buses and trucks, stricter limits will be applied for exhaust emissions measured in laboratories and in real driving conditions, while maintaining the current Euro VI testing conditions.

For the first time, EU standards will include brake particles emissions limits (PM10) for cars and vans and minimum performance requirements for battery durability in electric and hybrid cars.

So, the only downside for cars has a silver lining that that BMW's horrible brake dust will have to be reduced. Plus the battery durability standard is a good thing.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by chris719

This seems pretty good actually reading the bit on the ACEA site:



So, the only downside for cars has a silver lining that that BMW's horrible brake dust will have to be reduced. Plus the battery durability standard is a good thing.

Going on 35 year old information (before the internet), I've always understood the BMW (German car) brake dust situation was a TUV mandated pad formula that enhanced brake dust. As a safety related issue.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Going on 35 year old information (before the internet), I've always understood the BMW (German car) brake dust situation was a TUV mandated pad formula that enhanced brake dust. As a safety related issue.

I don't think it is any longer at least. They seem to prefer high bite and high friction for sure, but I had a couple 2 series UKL loaners and they clearly have some kind of ceramic or low dust pad vs the bigger cars, but the bite still felt fine. BMW brakes are so overboosted I would assume they can get away with a less bitey pad.

[chassis]

Originally Posted by chris719

This seems pretty good actually reading the bit on the ACEA site:



So, the only downside for cars has a silver lining that that BMW's horrible brake dust will have to be reduced. Plus the battery durability standard is a good thing.

Wow, brake particle emissions rules. Cayenne owners everywhere are rejoicing!

[x622]

Originally Posted by chassis

Wow, brake particle emissions rules. Cayenne owners everywhere are rejoicing!

Cayenne? Shit how about the entire audi lineup. No idea what OEM pads they use but they're dusty as can be.

[BlkGS]

I wouldn't be surprised if those standards don't go the way that y'all think. Ceramic pads still dust, they just dust a clear/white dust that's smaller.

All those old German cars that had really bad brake dust used organic compound pads. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided that one type of pad dust is less allowable than the others.