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LL-01 and LL-04, What's the Difference? (For a 335i)
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04-13-2007, 07:45 AM | #1 |
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LL-01 and LL-04, What's the Difference? (For a 335i)
I know, another oil thread. I would go to the BMW Dealer and buy the BMW oil, but it's 12 pounds (about $23) a liter here, and I get my paychecks in dollars.
I was looking at the back of a quart of Mobil 1 0W-40, and it states that it is "BMW Longlife 01" which i assume is LL-01. My question is, what is the difference between LL-01 and LL-04?
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04-13-2007, 09:51 AM | #2 | |
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The difference between LL01 and LL04 is that LL04 is formulated for improved exhaust cleanliness. It is a must have for the new BMW clean dielels with particulate filters. There is also some additional additives in it to help keep engine internals even cleaner than LL01 does. Those are the big differences... BMW LL04 can be used in both petrol and diesel BMWs. |
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04-13-2007, 09:57 AM | #3 | |
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04-13-2007, 11:16 AM | #4 |
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The new BMW petrol engines run safely with both BMW LL01 and BMW LL04. The LL04 was developed primarily to make diesel exhast as clean as possible. I don't believe it is an improvement in actual engine protection... LL01 is good to go for any new BMW petrol engine. If you run a new BMW diesel, make sure you stick to LL04 to avoid particulate filter problems!
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04-15-2007, 07:24 PM | #5 |
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This is a good post!
There are several LL-01 engine oils out there like BMW Synthetic, Mobil 1 0w-40, Castrol 5w-40 Euro Forumla, I think most Euro formula engine oils meet BMWs LL-01 specs. As for LL-04, there's ELF Solaris LSX 5w-30 and Amsoil 0w-40 Euro Formula. We use and sell ELF Solaris LSX engine oil at the shop. |
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04-17-2007, 06:22 PM | #6 | |
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In Europe, they get cool stuff like Castrol SLX LL04 and Mobil1 Low emission formula... I am sure we will only start getting this stuff in North America once BMW diesels arrive here... How have you found the performance of the Elf Solaris oil? |
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Curious how some of these other brands are! does Solaris look any different when pouring from the bottle? (i.e. colour or anything?) |
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04-17-2007, 09:05 PM | #9 | |
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ELF Solaris is much lighter in color than the BMW High Performance oil (which is very dark). If I had to describe it then it almost looks like liquid gold. |
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04-18-2007, 04:49 PM | #11 | |
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We get all the BMW diesels, but without the particle filters, so only LL-01 is available here.
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04-18-2007, 06:06 PM | #12 | |
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Word has it that we will get the diesels in North America in 2008 as 2009 models. |
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05-20-2024, 09:05 PM | #13 |
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Can BMW LL-04 oil be used in BMW MINI R60 gasoline engines?
I know LL-01 is recommended, but I have a large amount of LL-04 oil left, so I'm asking. Last edited by machalupin; 05-20-2024 at 09:14 PM.. |
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