How do you remove the pilot bearing?

N54Society · 03-28-2016, 03:07 AM

I'm in the middle of replacing my clutch and flywheel with the transmission off of the car. The pilot bearing on this transmission is tiny (bought the replacement). How do you get it off the shaft? It would seem like a normal gear puller wouldn't even fit in side the bearing.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-luk-part...207536792~luk/

335e92 · 03-28-2016, 03:24 AM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074116

Stroker1 · 03-28-2016, 07:11 AM

I used otc blind hole slide hammer puller pn 4581. Worked well.

335e92 · 03-28-2016, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vbp6us

I'm in the middle of replacing my clutch and flywheel with the transmission off of the car. The pilot bearing on this transmission is tiny (bought the replacement). How do you get it off the shaft? It would seem like a normal gear puller wouldn't even fit in side the bearing.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-luk-part...207536792~luk/

Did you get it out?

FRMTL2_335i · 03-28-2016, 10:55 PM

Don't!!!!
Leave It Alone! Grease It And Walk Away From It.

N54Society · 03-29-2016, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

Don't!!!!
Leave It Alone! Grease It And Walk Away From It.

I wish you left this message earlier. I would have listened to your advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335e92

Did you get it out?

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Originally Posted by Stroker1

I used otc blind hole slide hammer puller pn 4581. Worked well.

Wow...what a day. No, I didn't get it out. I'm in a bind now. My friend and I couldn't get this fucken thing out. I'm so pissed off. We called BMW and they literally said they don't touch that part when doing a clutch job.

The only thing I can think of is drilling that little hole but it seems like the pilot bearing case is made of hardened steel so drilling didn't get us anywhere either. I guess I need to get some heavy duty drill bits? Any suggestions? We tried a bunch of stuff before chiseling my tranny.

FRMTL2_335i · 03-29-2016, 12:39 AM

Do NOT f*ck with it anymore. Lol
Research and buy the bmw tool to remove it. I don't have the part number handy... but if you don't want to replace the trans, do not touch it again till u get the tool. I tried EVERYTHING and ruined my input shaft which is not serviceable unless u ship it to Germany LOL. Your best bet is to get the oem bmw tool

FRMTL2_335i · 03-29-2016, 12:40 AM

And it is hardened steel ...

N54Society · 03-29-2016, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

Do NOT f*ck with it anymore. Lol
Research and buy the bmw tool to remove it. I don't have the part number handy... but if you don't want to replace the trans, do not touch it again till u get the tool. I tried EVERYTHING and ruined my input shaft which is not serviceable unless u ship it to Germany LOL. Your best bet is to get the oem bmw tool

Is this it?

http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp?HC1=...sp&hdept_id=23

335e92 · 03-29-2016, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vbp6us

Is this it?

http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp?HC1=...sp&hdept_id=23

Get the small grease gun! It will get that shit out in 5 min.

335e92 · 03-29-2016, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 335e92

Get the small grease gun! It will get that shit out in 5 min.

I had the same problem and it saved my ass.

335e92 · 03-29-2016, 02:11 AM

jtswole · 03-29-2016, 06:11 AM

I left mine in.

danas · 03-29-2016, 09:14 PM

autozone has couple different pilot bearing pullers, combined with slide hammer as a loaner tool.
You have to get one which is round split in 3. it applies the pressure evenly and pulled it out on the first attempt. Bearing was already damaged from using other puller(with two fingers) with no success.

N54Society · 03-29-2016, 09:21 PM

My friend got it out today, finally. I was at work so I didn't see it but it involved a screw and a slide hammer lol. I'll ask for details. I did see the old pilot bearing and it had the back punched out clean. A perfect circle.

NYC_SGM_E90 · 03-29-2016, 10:25 PM

I dremeled away the side until it came loose but yeah never fucking with it again.

acegp1 · 03-30-2016, 11:44 AM

For all future people use this tool from harbor freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html

It's not cheap like the Autozone tools and works by spreading 4 separate ears which allow maximum contact with the surface of the bearing. Then just slide hammer it out and gently tap the new bearing in.

This tool was a life saver and all credit goes to "Tony@vargasturbotech" who recommended it to me.

saifbgz · 08-28-2024, 12:50 AM

For any future diy'er who broke their pilot bearing use lincoln 5803 grease gun tip and it slides out in 10 seconds #lifesaved

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FRMTL2_335i Major 76 Rep 1,071 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ohio iTrader: (1)	Do NOT f*ck with it anymore. Lol Research and buy the bmw tool to remove it. I don't have the part number handy... but if you don't want to replace the trans, do not touch it again till u get the tool. I tried EVERYTHING and ruined my input shaft which is not serviceable unless u ship it to Germany LOL. Your best bet is to get the oem bmw tool __________________ FFTEC 6466 Gen2, MHD Flash Tuned by Wedge, BMS PI Kit, FUEL-IT Stg 3 pump, HALTECH PS-1000, MFactory LSD w/lock down brace, ECS Trailing Arms, M3 control arms, M3 brace, DGR Coilovers, N20 tmap sensor, BMS OCC, VRSF exhaust w/4" tips, VRSF CP, Tial BOV. BigTom FMIC, Msport front & rear, m3 sides skirts.
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danas Private First Class 16 Rep 137 Posts Drives: E92 335i M N54 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	autozone has couple different pilot bearing pullers, combined with slide hammer as a loaner tool. You have to get one which is round split in 3. it applies the pressure evenly and pulled it out on the first attempt. Bearing was already damaged from using other puller(with two fingers) with no success.
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N54Society Major Private First Class 457 Rep 1,327 Posts Drives: 2010 E90 335i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: US, NA, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy iTrader: (2)	My friend got it out today, finally. I was at work so I didn't see it but it involved a screw and a slide hammer lol. I'll ask for details. I did see the old pilot bearing and it had the back punched out clean. A perfect circle. __________________ 2008 E92 335i 6MT: FBO + MMP Silicone Inlets \| Stage 1 LPFP \| 335is clutch + MFactory SMFW \| Custom BuraQ + MHD tune \| 3.5Bar N20 sensor [SOLD] 2010 E90 335i M-Sport AT: 5" Stepped FMIC, Stage 2 LPFP - MHD V7 E60 Tune running 100% E85 - VRSF DPs
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acegp1 Private 11 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW X5d Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (1)	For all future people use this tool from harbor freight: http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html It's not cheap like the Autozone tools and works by spreading 4 separate ears which allow maximum contact with the surface of the bearing. Then just slide hammer it out and gently tap the new bearing in. This tool was a life saver and all credit goes to "Tony@vargasturbotech" who recommended it to me.
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