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      Yesterday, 03:10 PM   #23
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Those injectors look horrible....definitely running rich. And when they are out, and you are cranking the engine over...they aren't spraying fluid, or dripping?
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Your AFRs for both banks look good, and are matching. So that doesn't tell us much. There are some timing corrections on cylinder 1, which MIGHT point towards a leaky injector. I would drive the car for a little bit(no need to drive it hard), park it up, and pull the plugs after the car has been sitting for a good few hours. Give them a smell as well, and also inspect them visually.

Here is a great guide for interpreting your data logs:
https://bmwtuning.co/bmw-n54-data-logging-with-jb4/
That was a great read and hugely helpful. I did not have 6 cylinder timing enabled on my previous log so I fixed that and did another one:

https://datazap.me/u/kevlarblue/log-...25-26-27-28-29

Ign_1 seems to be an outlier in a few places, specifically staying at 7.1 when 2-6 go to 0.0 as I let off the throttle to shift from 3 to 4 at timestamp 79.11. This seems to be a consistent trend each time the RPM starts to decrease; Ign_1 drops but doesn't go to zero like 2-6. And then at timestamp 107.9, as the throttle goes back to 100, Ign_1 is climbing slower than the rest and momentarily dips down to 6.3 while 2-6 are at 13.8.

Maybe I'm not reading it right and I am very new to looking at a log but I'm thinking I might swap out that injector and do another log to see what happens.
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Those injectors look horrible....definitely running rich. And when they are out, and you are cranking the engine over...they aren't spraying fluid, or dripping?
Thanks for bringing that up, I had black buildup on cylinders 2-6 but not on cylinder 1. That was my first time pulling injectors so I did not know what to expect.

That's right, I cranked on the engine 3 times for about 20 seconds each over the course of a couple hours and I never got any spray or drip from any of them. I had the fuel rail hooked up but the electrical plugs disconnected from the injectors.
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Please let us know if anything changes after swapping injector 1 out. Dont forget to code and reset adaptations
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Hm, how did you find out?

Mine dont leak on the rail.

I so have a gasoline smell on 1 cylinder when i remove the plugs in the morning.

Maybe they leak under voltage/dont close fully and the fuel dries till the next morning?

I will take the plugs out directly after a drive and see how they look.
Simple way to do it is to swap injector 1 and 2, and see if the smell moves. Don't forget to code the injectors.
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That was a great read and hugely helpful. I did not have 6 cylinder timing enabled on my previous log so I fixed that and did another one:

https://datazap.me/u/kevlarblue/log-...25-26-27-28-29

Ign_1 seems to be an outlier in a few places, specifically staying at 7.1 when 2-6 go to 0.0 as I let off the throttle to shift from 3 to 4 at timestamp 79.11. This seems to be a consistent trend each time the RPM starts to decrease; Ign_1 drops but doesn't go to zero like 2-6. And then at timestamp 107.9, as the throttle goes back to 100, Ign_1 is climbing slower than the rest and momentarily dips down to 6.3 while 2-6 are at 13.8.

Maybe I'm not reading it right and I am very new to looking at a log but I'm thinking I might swap out that injector and do another log to see what happens.
You could try swapping injector 1 with 2, and see if the corrections move along with the injector. Remember that you will need to code the injectors.
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kevlarblue Out of interest, did you buy your JB4 new or used? Have you verified that all your settings are correct?
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