zaino Z-8 vs FK1 #425

5soko · 08-14-2008, 04:48 PM

hey guys i was about to order some more #425 but my friend was telling me how great the zaino Z-8 stuff is.

when i was looking into it, it says its s sealant?

i use #425 almost everytime after i wash my car, give it a nice shine and slickness and also adds some protection.

what exactly does the Z-8 offer over the #425, protection?

how they compare and differ?

thanks alot

Malek@MRF · 08-14-2008, 06:07 PM

I personally don't think there is a better QD out there compared to #425. Its extremely versatile, easy to use and works the best.

haper · 08-14-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 5soko335i

how they compare and differ?

z8 is not a QD, it is a gloss and protectant booster and should only be used on a freshly cleaned car, z6 is zaino's QD.

i've used z8 and find it very nice, friends who rarely comment on my always clean car in the past are saying how good it looks when i use z8.

LOLrance · 08-14-2008, 07:12 PM

+1. Z8 is not Zainos QD, that would be Z6. Z8 is more of a spray on sealant / sealant booster.

5soko · 08-14-2008, 07:51 PM

so what exactly is Z8? or when can i use it. i put it on my trunk and it makes it looks nice and deep, even looks like the webbing or swirls have gone away some?

can Z-8 give more of a effect then #425?

Malek@MRF · 08-14-2008, 08:16 PM

Z8 is the sorta the equivalent of Finish Kare's FX-100 ultra spray glaze/sealant.

FK-425 is a pure QD.

You should generally use a product like Z8 or FX-100 after you wash your car every weekly to refresh your sealed paint. Fk-425, you can use it however you like, but I generally am not a fan of QD'ing a car that has been driven more than a few miles. The 425 gives a little "pop" to the paint and restores slickness. If used in conjunction with the FX-100, it will keep your paint looking fresh and feeling slick for a while until you reseal and apply your LSP.

5soko · 08-14-2008, 09:13 PM

i dont like Fx-100 because it has to dry and buff away and what not. the Z-8 was very easy to use, that the only reason i am comparing.

just didnt really did get what it did.

so is a sealant like a wax?

i have about 15k miles on my car and i owned it for about 15 months now, i wash it up tp 2 times a week and its garage kept.

i have never calyed, polished or waxed my car, a couple months ago bmw said they gave me a detail to my car, polish or wax or w.e. they did. they even were kind enough to give me some machine marks up and down on my hood

anyways, which do you guys recommened more?

i have been using megauirs ult. QD for a while now, but i feel as if the zaino z-8 can do more then just a QD, it can protect, give shine and what not, something that QD cant do? or am i mistaken.

so which gives a better shine?
provides more protection?

haper · 08-15-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 5soko335i

so is a sealant like a wax?

the advantage of a QD is it 'can' be used to clean a lightly soiled car - although i never use a QD for that purpose b/c i never was able to avoid marring. most QD, along w/ cleaning, will provide a bit of gloss and protection.

now, if you are looking for a product to add gloss and protection (and not clean) then you'll get better results by not using a QD and z8 is an excellent option. but there are others on the market that you can research / try out for yourself, i've heard good things about duragloss aquawax and chemical guys speed wax and shine.

omgitselainee · 08-15-2008, 06:21 PM

I recently ordered the FK because of all the high recommendations from here

so im waiting on the bottles ?! I normally use z6 but ill try the fk for now. Would it be okay for me to use the FK to clean the car then Z8 for the shine ?? TIA

haper · 08-15-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by omgitselainee

Would it be okay for me to use the FK to clean the car then Z8 for the shine ??

problem is, along w/ cleaning, the 425 will leave a gloss on the paint. if you use z8 on top of this freshly applied 425 gloss they could mix together and cause adverse effects.

ScheerSpeed · 08-15-2008, 09:19 PM

Use z8 with zaino. It's made to work with their sealants, so I wouldn't use it If you have any other sort of wax/sealant on the car. When I used to use zaino, I would do z8 every other wash and z6 after every wash I didn't use z8 on. 425 on the other Han is made to work with any lsp, be it a sealant or wax. But if you use 425 alone I don't think it's effects will last more than a day or so.

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5soko Brigadier General 358 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	zaino Z-8 vs FK1 #425 hey guys i was about to order some more #425 but my friend was telling me how great the zaino Z-8 stuff is. when i was looking into it, it says its s sealant? i use #425 almost everytime after i wash my car, give it a nice shine and slickness and also adds some protection. what exactly does the Z-8 offer over the #425, protection? how they compare and differ? thanks alot
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Malek@MRF Brigadier General 754 Rep 3,732 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3, G82 M4 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Irvine, California iTrader: (5)	I personally don't think there is a better QD out there compared to #425. Its extremely versatile, easy to use and works the best. __________________ BMW PERFORMANCE SPECIALISTS. Race Engines. Suspension. F/I. Brakes. Race Preparation. Factory Service. Alignments. OFFICIAL PARTNERS: KW. MOTON. Brembo. AP Racing. BBS Motorsport. iND. HRE. Turner Motorsport. VAC. BMW Motorsport. Facebook \| Instagram \| Yelp! \| Flikr Phone: 949-233-0448 \| E-Mail: info@mrfengineering.com
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LOLrance The Law. 314 Rep 14,282 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SF / OC iTrader: (17)	+1. Z8 is not Zainos QD, that would be Z6. Z8 is more of a spray on sealant / sealant booster. __________________
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5soko Brigadier General 358 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	so what exactly is Z8? or when can i use it. i put it on my trunk and it makes it looks nice and deep, even looks like the webbing or swirls have gone away some? can Z-8 give more of a effect then #425?
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Malek@MRF Brigadier General 754 Rep 3,732 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3, G82 M4 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Irvine, California iTrader: (5)	Z8 is the sorta the equivalent of Finish Kare's FX-100 ultra spray glaze/sealant. FK-425 is a pure QD. You should generally use a product like Z8 or FX-100 after you wash your car every weekly to refresh your sealed paint. Fk-425, you can use it however you like, but I generally am not a fan of QD'ing a car that has been driven more than a few miles. The 425 gives a little "pop" to the paint and restores slickness. If used in conjunction with the FX-100, it will keep your paint looking fresh and feeling slick for a while until you reseal and apply your LSP. __________________ BMW PERFORMANCE SPECIALISTS. Race Engines. Suspension. F/I. Brakes. Race Preparation. Factory Service. Alignments. OFFICIAL PARTNERS: KW. MOTON. Brembo. AP Racing. BBS Motorsport. iND. HRE. Turner Motorsport. VAC. BMW Motorsport. Facebook \| Instagram \| Yelp! \| Flikr Phone: 949-233-0448 \| E-Mail: info@mrfengineering.com
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5soko Brigadier General 358 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	i dont like Fx-100 because it has to dry and buff away and what not. the Z-8 was very easy to use, that the only reason i am comparing. just didnt really did get what it did. so is a sealant like a wax? i have about 15k miles on my car and i owned it for about 15 months now, i wash it up tp 2 times a week and its garage kept. i have never calyed, polished or waxed my car, a couple months ago bmw said they gave me a detail to my car, polish or wax or w.e. they did. they even were kind enough to give me some machine marks up and down on my hood anyways, which do you guys recommened more? i have been using megauirs ult. QD for a while now, but i feel as if the zaino z-8 can do more then just a QD, it can protect, give shine and what not, something that QD cant do? or am i mistaken. so which gives a better shine? provides more protection?
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omgitselainee Private First Class 24 Rep 126 Posts Drives: AW E92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (0)	I recently ordered the FK because of all the high recommendations from here so im waiting on the bottles ?! I normally use z6 but ill try the fk for now. Would it be okay for me to use the FK to clean the car then Z8 for the shine ?? TIA
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ScheerSpeed Major General 447 Rep 5,766 Posts Drives: '13 F30 Estoril M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (14)	Use z8 with zaino. It's made to work with their sealants, so I wouldn't use it If you have any other sort of wax/sealant on the car. When I used to use zaino, I would do z8 every other wash and z6 after every wash I didn't use z8 on. 425 on the other Han is made to work with any lsp, be it a sealant or wax. But if you use 425 alone I don't think it's effects will last more than a day or so.
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