HELP!! Wax vs. Sealant 335i daily driver in Sunny Florida

wpfsu03 · 09-07-2008, 05:05 PM

As you all may know, Florida is known for hot days, lots of rain, bird crap, and of course, the dreaded love-bugs! I have an 07 335i coupe (jet black) and have clayed the car and then followed with the Mothers California Gold 3 step process a few months ago. I'm thinking that in the fall I will do it again, but would like to do a polish first. Here's what I'm thinking, then you guys can tell me what you think. when in the sun, i have some what I like to call "spider webs" i the paint.
1 Clay
2 PO106FA with a white pad (or should I use yellow? or something stronger?)
3 Red Moose machine glaze (black pad)

***4 Here's the question - either Souveran Paste wax, or FMJ Sealant? Or both?? Or neither??

Also, is the PO106FA strong enough, or should I use something else?
This is a great resource, sometimes the amount of info is a bit overwhelming. Thanks in advance!!

pander5 · 09-07-2008, 05:56 PM

Based on your model, color (JB) and build year I would almost guarantee you have the renowned very, very soft clear. It seems specific to JB E92 coupes. Not to discourage you but a few of the pros have even had issues fully correcting this paint.

If you have a black or red finishing pad I would try those first with the 106FA. Be gentle and try to finesse the polish effort to start at a slower speed and gradually increase your speed - then back down.

As far as sealant vs. carnauba in our environment I only use sealants on my car. I found over the years that carnauba's are much too perishable in FL for all the reasons you mentioned above.

SpecC · 09-07-2008, 10:52 PM

both

sealant then wax

it can't hurt but sealant is probably the better onef or protection if you absolutely had to choose one

RedGT3 · 09-08-2008, 07:02 AM

I use Jetseal 109 and collinite 915 with great results. BTW I also line in FL

purplewidow · 09-08-2008, 11:36 AM

it doesn't really matter.. it's all how you want it to look and you will get a million diff opinions on the same products.. i would use both.. but if your gonna do it every month or 2 then i would just wax.. or just sealant.. if you want to try and get 4 months or so.. use both. i have never used those products so i can't tell you how they will perform and/or look combined or solo. good luck

ScheerSpeed · 09-08-2008, 01:17 PM

im here in Miami. either you will need to wax every few weeks, or apply a sealant every few months. Souveran doesn't give much protection, you are going to want a wax with more carnauba. from my experience in FL, CG jetSEAL109 and Pete's 53' wax works very well.

wpfsu03 · 09-11-2008, 11:00 PM

after reading countless posts, this is what i went with. I'll be sure to take plenty of before and after pics to post them. Thank you to those who have replied. I'm going to start with SIP on an orange pad, then move on to 106FA with a white pad. Those should help get rid of the swirls/light spider web scratches. I'll put the Menzerna finishing touch glaze next. After that, it's a follow up with FMJ and then Pete's 53 (which is on sale right now for $37 on their website directly).
I should only have to put on the wax about every 6-8 weeks and do the polish maybe twice a year, but we'll see how it goes. I keep the car in the garage and don't drive it too much but who knows. If anyone sees anything i've missed, or should NOT do, please let me know.
Oh yeah, i'll hit it with a clay bar after a good washing! Hopefully I can get it all done next weekend.

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wpfsu03 New Member 2 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Comp Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando iTrader: (0)	HELP!! Wax vs. Sealant 335i daily driver in Sunny Florida As you all may know, Florida is known for hot days, lots of rain, bird crap, and of course, the dreaded love-bugs! I have an 07 335i coupe (jet black) and have clayed the car and then followed with the Mothers California Gold 3 step process a few months ago. I'm thinking that in the fall I will do it again, but would like to do a polish first. Here's what I'm thinking, then you guys can tell me what you think. when in the sun, i have some what I like to call "spider webs" i the paint. 1 Clay 2 PO106FA with a white pad (or should I use yellow? or something stronger?) 3 Red Moose machine glaze (black pad) ***4 Here's the question - either Souveran Paste wax, or FMJ Sealant? Or both?? Or neither?? Also, is the PO106FA strong enough, or should I use something else? This is a great resource, sometimes the amount of info is a bit overwhelming. Thanks in advance!!
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pander5 Special Forces - Discretion is superior 32 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe Sapphire Black Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	Based on your model, color (JB) and build year I would almost guarantee you have the renowned very, very soft clear. It seems specific to JB E92 coupes. Not to discourage you but a few of the pros have even had issues fully correcting this paint. If you have a black or red finishing pad I would try those first with the 106FA. Be gentle and try to finesse the polish effort to start at a slower speed and gradually increase your speed - then back down. As far as sealant vs. carnauba in our environment I only use sealants on my car. I found over the years that carnauba's are much too perishable in FL for all the reasons you mentioned above. __________________ M3 + trailer hitch = oxymoron
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SpecC Completely obsessed with detailing 308 Rep 15,441 Posts Drives: E90 SG 330i, white Scion tC Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Francisco and Davis iTrader: (4)	both sealant then wax it can't hurt but sealant is probably the better onef or protection if you absolutely had to choose one
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RedGT3 Major 83 Rep 1,253 Posts Drives: .2 GT3/M3cs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (3)	I use Jetseal 109 and collinite 915 with great results. BTW I also line in FL
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purplewidow Lieutenant Colonel 54 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	it doesn't really matter.. it's all how you want it to look and you will get a million diff opinions on the same products.. i would use both.. but if your gonna do it every month or 2 then i would just wax.. or just sealant.. if you want to try and get 4 months or so.. use both. i have never used those products so i can't tell you how they will perform and/or look combined or solo. good luck
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ScheerSpeed Major General 447 Rep 5,766 Posts Drives: '13 F30 Estoril M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (14)	im here in Miami. either you will need to wax every few weeks, or apply a sealant every few months. Souveran doesn't give much protection, you are going to want a wax with more carnauba. from my experience in FL, CG jetSEAL109 and Pete's 53' wax works very well.
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09-11-2008, 11:00 PM	#7
wpfsu03 New Member 2 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Comp Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando iTrader: (0)	here's what i went with, thanks for your help! after reading countless posts, this is what i went with. I'll be sure to take plenty of before and after pics to post them. Thank you to those who have replied. I'm going to start with SIP on an orange pad, then move on to 106FA with a white pad. Those should help get rid of the swirls/light spider web scratches. I'll put the Menzerna finishing touch glaze next. After that, it's a follow up with FMJ and then Pete's 53 (which is on sale right now for $37 on their website directly). I should only have to put on the wax about every 6-8 weeks and do the polish maybe twice a year, but we'll see how it goes. I keep the car in the garage and don't drive it too much but who knows. If anyone sees anything i've missed, or should NOT do, please let me know. Oh yeah, i'll hit it with a clay bar after a good washing! Hopefully I can get it all done next weekend.
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