6.0 GTO vs 335xi

mwahlert · 03-16-2009, 08:45 AM

i wish there was an ls3 option on the 3 series - haha.

srt8/bmw · 03-16-2009, 12:36 PM

the GTOs are fast and can be made really fast. Most of the guys that own them seem pretty cool--on their forums and stuff. They are true "car" guys.

there are some who "hate on" us BMW owners..LOL

If I told you my last run in with a GTO--it would sound completely made up and scripted like out of a movie, so I won't bother..except to just say that it was at a two lane, red light, where you could see no traffic or law enforcement for a good mile, and the GTO was occupied by two very young men (probabably 19 or 20), who actually rolled down there window and said some very aggressive, cocky things, and were asking for a race they were sure they would easily win. Like I said-the conversation would be like out of a movie--and these boys knew nothing about the bmw, what xi means, or tuned 335s. but instead of being cocky, I playued totally dumb..

My car is aggressively tuned (JB2HHR) with R off and 94 octane at the time. Plus catless DPs and performance filter. Currently the fastest Xi on dragtimes-runs low 12s pretty consistently.

Anyway, at launch, I got 3 cars immediately--and I mean immediately. but since we had so much room I knew they would keeo coming. So I will just say that by the next light where it was time to slow down, I was at 120 and GAINING..now about 8 car lengths. I will also say their reaction was, well priceless when they pulled up to talk.

mwahlert · 03-16-2009, 12:41 PM

the biggest problem with the gto is the fact that is comes with a pathetic sized rear tire (245's on the 17s and 235's on the 18s) and to fit anything appropriate (such as a 275) in most circumstances you need to roll the fenders....

it also irritates me how close the clutch pedal is to the dead pedal - i could never fit my foot between the side of the foot box and the pedal - and i'm a SMALL dude....

the trunk was also a waste.....stupid crash regulations forced them to put the gas thank in the trunk consuming half of the usable space.

but the lsX motors are great.... simple and very effective...

Septro · 03-16-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

My car is aggressively tuned (JB2HHR) with R off and 94 octane at the time. Plus catless DPs and performance filter. Currently the fastest Xi on dragtimes-runs low 12s pretty consistently.

Are you the EliseC from Dragtimes then?

srt8/bmw · 03-16-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Septro

Are you the EliseC from Dragtimes then?

Yes...tht is my girlfriend in my car. I am the Mike S. you see listed there in the top ten.

She is every bit the driver I am--same 60 ft. times, only she ways 70 LBS less!

Septro · 03-16-2009, 02:15 PM

Lol I need to borrow her for my car then at the strip. She would need to wear goatee and talk with a deep voice though.. haha

Doc GTO · 03-24-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by J BONE

Just found this, faster than I though I guess. 0-60 and 1/4 mile....

2004 Pontiac GTO LS1 5.3 13.8
2005 Pontiac GTO LS2 4.6 13.0 w/AT (GM Sales Literature)
2005 Pontiac GTO LS2 4.7 13.1 w/MT (GM Sales Literature)
2005 Pontiac GTO V8 w/6 Spd 4.8 13.3 (C&D Jan '05)

My best 1/4 stock with my 5.7 was 13.5 at 105 at Silver Dollar Raceway in Georgia. My best in a stock LS2 GTO was 12.9 at 108 at Gainesville in Florida. By the time I was able to drive an LS2 GTO I was better with the launch technique.

Doc GTO · 03-24-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mwahlert

humm - i had a 05 ls2 powered gto - sold it - bought a mkv gti - sold it bought the 335i. i sold the gto to my best friend....he installed sts rear mount turbo kit @ 8psi made 505rwhp/550rwtq.....then we put it back to stock so he could trade it in for new tundra.... anyhow.... both cars bone stock were dead even he could not pull away from me....

the ls2 is a great motor - it just belongs in a car worthy of its power....the gto was a hunk of crap - i only kept it 3 months.

Wow, to bad for you. It is very rare that someone gets a bad goat and I should know. Mine at 70K is still as tight as it was the day I bought it.

BobVader · 03-24-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

Yes...tht is my girlfriend in my car. I am the Mike S. you see listed there in the top ten.

She is every bit the driver I am--same 60 ft. times, only she ways 70 LBS less!

hoooo. Is you Mike S. (Elyse) I want your 1st place for XI's..

on dragtimes

For now I'm in 6 place with my old AA processor. Good fight for this summer

Proper Motion LLC · 03-24-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

GTOs are pretty fast, especially on a roll-on. Your best bet is right off the line through 1st gear. He will probably have more problems with wheel spin. And with the XI, you definitely need to race from the dig! They are faster than you think. I go out of my way to race GTOs. They are in the same category as SRT8s.

Speaking of the JB+. A guy I know tried to race me in his 07 MCoupe last night. He said he thought I was going to beat him. I did. Pulled 1.5-2.0 car lengths by the time will hit 70. I had a passenger too. JB+ is pretty impressive. Without it, I would have a hard time pulling him at all with a passenger, thats for sure.

whats your fastest jb+ 0-100mph run with 93 octane or lower?

srt8/bmw · 03-24-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BobVader

hoooo. Is you Mike S. (Elyse) I want your 1st place for XI's..

on dragtimes

For now I'm in 6 place with my old AA processor. Good fight for this summer

for sure..we need the competition Bob!! I did that with JB2HHR-and downpipes, that was it. But the R switch ususally didn't work--it would go limp on hard launch. For whatev er reason, one day it worked and 12.3.

I had 12.4 without the R switch. I have now added JB3, FMIC and catbacks...so who the hell knows what she will do now. I do expect one of us to get 11s thos....

for your viewing pleasure--here is a launch in the steptronic version...yeehhhhaaaww!

http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Cadill...eos-16478.html

Graystone · 03-24-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

the GTOs are fast and can be made really fast. Most of the guys that own them seem pretty cool--on their forums and stuff. They are true "car" guys.

there are some who "hate on" us BMW owners..LOL

If I told you my last run in with a GTO--it would sound completely made up and scripted like out of a movie, so I won't bother..except to just say that it was at a two lane, red light, where you could see no traffic or law enforcement for a good mile, and the GTO was occupied by two very young men (probabably 19 or 20), who actually rolled down there window and said some very aggressive, cocky things, and were asking for a race they were sure they would easily win. Like I said-the conversation would be like out of a movie--and these boys knew nothing about the bmw, what xi means, or tuned 335s. but instead of being cocky, I playued totally dumb..

My car is aggressively tuned (JB2HHR) with R off and 94 octane at the time. Plus catless DPs and performance filter. Currently the fastest Xi on dragtimes-runs low 12s pretty consistently.

Anyway, at launch, I got 3 cars immediately--and I mean immediately. but since we had so much room I knew they would keeo coming. So I will just say that by the next light where it was time to slow down, I was at 120 and GAINING..now about 8 car lengths. I will also say their reaction was, well priceless when they pulled up to talk.

Great Story!! My car is an 07 and the guy i came across had the same reaction he thought for sure it was a 330 this race was in 07 the expression was like what the heck is that its not an M3 how the lol but i was just edging ahead of im your story is the Quintessential dream story! Luv it and that was just a straight line.

elwoodwffw · 03-25-2009, 01:24 AM

great run against that caddie... that does look like one hell of a launch... what do you usually pull your 60ft times @? just wondering..

hotrod182 · 03-25-2009, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

for sure..we need the competition Bob!! I did that with JB2HHR-and downpipes, that was it. But the R switch ususally didn't work--it would go limp on hard launch. For whatev er reason, one day it worked and 12.3.

I had 12.4 without the R switch. I have now added JB3, FMIC and catbacks...so who the hell knows what she will do now. I do expect one of us to get 11s thos....

for your viewing pleasure--here is a launch in the steptronic version...yeehhhhaaaww!

http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Cadill...eos-16478.html

The guy said 12.4 vs 12.7, the video says 12.3 for the Caddy? Did the 335i run a 12.7 in that video?

BobVader · 03-25-2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

for sure..we need the competition Bob!! I did that with JB2HHR-and downpipes, that was it. But the R switch ususally didn't work--it would go limp on hard launch. For whatev er reason, one day it worked and 12.3.

I had 12.4 without the R switch. I have now added JB3, FMIC and catbacks...so who the hell knows what she will do now. I do expect one of us to get 11s thos....

for your viewing pleasure--here is a launch in the steptronic version...yeehhhhaaaww!

http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Cadill...eos-16478.html

Good launch against the caddy. I think is more difficult to be consistant with 6mt. For me probably sunday 29 march at track if not rain...

A+

srt8/bmw · 03-25-2009, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BobVader

Good launch against the caddy. I think is more difficult to be consistant with 6mt. For me probably sunday 29 march at track if not rain...

A+

yes--6mt harder for sure. But watching your video--you do a great job shifting. I was wanting to go to southern ohio track this saturday--but same problem...forecasting rain.

srt8/bmw · 03-25-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

The guy said 12.4 vs 12.7, the video says 12.3 for the Caddy? Did the 335i run a 12.7 in that video?

yes--my bro shot that vid ---and it is on dragtimes for the caddy--and I have no idea who put it there. The caddy ran 12.4, but in earlier run just before that-he ran 12.3 and the manual one (this was in October and it was professional drivers from Motor Trend testing 09 CTS-V before they were sold to public) got a 12.2. And in that vid I had a 60ft of 1.75 and ran 12.7. Later that night (R switch never worked so was never turned on) I ran a couple of 12.5s.

I am impressed now more than before with that launch for the caddy on the vid--1.95 60 ft. on street tires. I took my 09 CTS-V to the track--first time there-- this last saturday in southern Ohio and ran a best 12.3 with a 2.0 60 ft. Best trap was 119. car is so high torque (551 stock) that it takes some serious practice. But holy gates of hell once it is launched--HOLD ON!

sflgator · 03-25-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by srt8/bmw

I am impressed now more than before with that launch for the caddy on the vid--1.95 60 ft. on street tires. I took my 09 CTS-V to the track--first time there-- this last saturday in southern Ohio and ran a best 12.3 with a 2.0 60 ft. Best trap was 119. car is so high torque (551 stock) that it takes some serious practice. But holy gates of hell once it is launched--HOLD ON!

Firedog335i · 03-25-2009, 03:07 PM

JB. Good mod?

srt8/bmw · 03-25-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedog335i

JB. Good mod?

a must--if you like............

Septro · 03-25-2009, 10:53 PM

What race track did you go in so. OH? I'm headed that way and want to start getting a feel for this summer's drag schedule.

srt8/bmw · 03-26-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Septro

What race track did you go in so. OH? I'm headed that way and want to start getting a feel for this summer's drag schedule.

I went to Kil-care...in Xenia Ohio (not far from Dayton). Nice track..but more important for me...they opened last saturday, and the tracks near me in michigan open first saturday in April.

I want to go back this saturday with both the V and the newly tuned and "fmic d" 335Xi and see what map 7 and a little 100 octane can do. But as of now they are forecasting rain...

link to kilcare:

http://www.kilkare.com/

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srt8/bmw Private First Class 11 Rep 192 Posts Drives: 08 335xi coupe-Space Gray Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan iTrader: (0)	the GTOs are fast and can be made really fast. Most of the guys that own them seem pretty cool--on their forums and stuff. They are true "car" guys. there are some who "hate on" us BMW owners..LOL If I told you my last run in with a GTO--it would sound completely made up and scripted like out of a movie, so I won't bother..except to just say that it was at a two lane, red light, where you could see no traffic or law enforcement for a good mile, and the GTO was occupied by two very young men (probabably 19 or 20), who actually rolled down there window and said some very aggressive, cocky things, and were asking for a race they were sure they would easily win. Like I said-the conversation would be like out of a movie--and these boys knew nothing about the bmw, what xi means, or tuned 335s. but instead of being cocky, I playued totally dumb.. My car is aggressively tuned (JB2HHR) with R off and 94 octane at the time. Plus catless DPs and performance filter. Currently the fastest Xi on dragtimes-runs low 12s pretty consistently. Anyway, at launch, I got 3 cars immediately--and I mean immediately. but since we had so much room I knew they would keeo coming. So I will just say that by the next light where it was time to slow down, I was at 120 and GAINING..now about 8 car lengths. I will also say their reaction was, well priceless when they pulled up to talk. __________________ 2013550Xi msport white 335xi-JB3, UR DPs, code-3 fmic, BMS filter,borla catback,11.96@116
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mwahlert Lieutenant Colonel 97 Rep 1,659 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (8)	the biggest problem with the gto is the fact that is comes with a pathetic sized rear tire (245's on the 17s and 235's on the 18s) and to fit anything appropriate (such as a 275) in most circumstances you need to roll the fenders.... it also irritates me how close the clutch pedal is to the dead pedal - i could never fit my foot between the side of the foot box and the pedal - and i'm a SMALL dude.... the trunk was also a waste.....stupid crash regulations forced them to put the gas thank in the trunk consuming half of the usable space. but the lsX motors are great.... simple and very effective...
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