Catch Can Needed 4 stock turbos ?

Spydeputy · 03-23-2009, 08:20 AM

it has been suggested by my tech. that i may want to consider an oil catch can if,..... others w/ the same set up as mine & have installed one. AND how often do they empty them (by miles) and what amount of oil are they getting in that amount of mileage.

i don't know if it makes a difference btwn, stock or running a tune, that will make a difference on how much oil is collected.

i had asked before but didn't hear f/ anyone with my set up.
tech seems to think if others are not collecting much oil because the N54 is built tight, i won't really need a O.C.C.

I have a 2008 335xi, E90, 10K miles, sports pkg. with up graded wheels so i have an oil cooler, Helene drop in filter, MFD scoops, Cross front strut brace, stock turbos, no tunes or engine mods. may add a tune some day, most likely after the warranty expires. something like JB+ on a SSTT. nothing fancy. unless i go w/ the new BMW performance pkg that is soon to come out.

may minds better than mine prevail. thx all.

enrita · 03-23-2009, 10:07 AM

doesnt matter what setup you have. Oil catch can is always usefull. Just Search around, there are some reviews.

cn555ic · 03-23-2009, 10:35 AM

All I have to say is when I changed my oem DVs to the Forge ones, I found oil residue in the charge pipe, when I did the install of the CC, tubing had significant oil in it....I let the tubing hang and in the morning there was about about quarter size puddle of oil on my desk...I only have 5000 miles on the clock.

Mote · 03-23-2009, 10:55 AM

I have spoken to several BMW techs who have all strongly recommended an oil catch can. The amount of oil they find on parts when working on 335i's is frightening to them.

Spydeputy · 03-23-2009, 12:03 PM

thanks for the info. so what is a good OCC for the money ? i remember seeing a DIY on one that installed up by the firewall.

forgot to ask, is BMW dealership (shop) going to have any issues with this. and is it something i need to take off before i go in for BMW service ?

wellwell · 03-23-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spydeputy

thanks for the info. so what is a good OCC for the money ? i remember seeing a DIY on one that installed up by the firewall.

forgot to ask, is BMW dealership (shop) going to have any issues with this. and is it something i need to take off before i go in for BMW service ?

I would like to know this as well. It seems that if you are meticulous about removing all traces of a tune then leaving the OCC in for service could be explained as personal preference from owning turbo vehicles in the past. Anyone have experience with this?

enrita · 03-23-2009, 01:33 PM

the only Catch can available is the Riss Racing. PLEASE search....

wellwell · 03-23-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

the only Catch can available is the Riss Racing. PLEASE search....

The OP and I want to know if it is acceptable to have your car serviced with on OCC installed. Never inquired about vendors. Please read the thread you ftard.

GhOsT_E90 · 03-23-2009, 01:51 PM

Well i just removed all traces of any aftermarket parts from my car, taking mine in for the wastegate ticking issue. Anyway i found that the Riss Racing OCC works, although mine was not full or showing in the clear tube sight glass, when i took it out it diffently had oil in it. I highly recommend it and highly recommend taking it out for dealer services or warranty services just so there is no traces the dealer can point a finger at even if it is BS.

enrita · 03-23-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wellwell

The OP and I want to know if it is acceptable to have your car serviced with on OCC installed. Never inquired about vendors. Please read the thread you ftard.

u are FTard... OP specifically asked which Oil catch can is good for the money, read the OP questions yourself . Take it to dealer , thats up to you and how well you know them. I dont think its an issue to do so.

BMW_TT · 03-23-2009, 02:32 PM

I leave mine in.

Spydeputy · 03-23-2009, 05:24 PM

thanks, Ris Racing, got it.
how often do you empty the can
sorry if i missed it in their DIY video.
but do you take out your DV when you put in the OCC.
and i'll ask the shop forman at bel air BMW how he will handle
me having an OCC.

thanks everyone, i'm new to this turbo stuff.
but i love the education i'm getting. it addictive ;^)

Ghost170 · 03-23-2009, 05:47 PM

I have left mine in for service and a software update, no issues so far.

MNR0 · 03-23-2009, 10:23 PM

That's only the oil it manages to catch...

Spydeputy · 03-26-2009, 05:33 AM

well i got the good news you all said i would. showed the head shop tech at my BMW dealer. he said he will have no problem w/ the catch can being installed in the car, if it is their during the warranty preiod.

just like i was told several times. Oil Catch Can is a go. time to call Riss Racing.

Neon01 · 03-26-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spydeputy

well i got the good news you all said i would. showed the head shop tech at my BMW dealer. he said he will have no problem w/ the catch can being installed in the car, if it is their during the warranty preiod.

just like i was told several times. Oil Catch Can is a go. time to call Riss Racing.

Thanks for the update, I go to Bel Air as well

ToadHollow · 03-26-2009, 10:09 AM

I also have the RR catch can installed and have since last Summer .......... somewhere around 8 months now. The car had maybe 7200K on the clock at the time of install. It now shows just over 17K and it is for the most part, a daily driver.

My list of mods is a bit more extensive than yours and everything stays installed with trips to the dealer. That said, the only techs that EVER touch my car are either the lead tech or the master tech in the shop. Both have stated that the catch can is an excellent idea whether BMW engineers think so or not. They are also in agreement that any turbo-charged vehicle would benefit from the addition of an occ. As a matter of fact, nearly all of the performance changes I have made to the car were based upon their recommendations/opinions. I guess my dealer is out of the norm within this forum ......

As far as how often to empty the cc goes ........ I have emptied it twice and have had 1 oil change during that time. I had enough oil to fill a shot glass. The only performance change I have made to the car since the occ install are the addition of DPs (installed this week).

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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	doesnt matter what setup you have. Oil catch can is always usefull. Just Search around, there are some reviews. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	All I have to say is when I changed my oem DVs to the Forge ones, I found oil residue in the charge pipe, when I did the install of the CC, tubing had significant oil in it....I let the tubing hang and in the morning there was about about quarter size puddle of oil on my desk...I only have 5000 miles on the clock.
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Mote Colonel 143 Rep 2,162 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 - 1991 E30 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Beverly Hills, CA iTrader: (0)	I have spoken to several BMW techs who have all strongly recommended an oil catch can. The amount of oil they find on parts when working on 335i's is frightening to them.
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	the only Catch can available is the Riss Racing. PLEASE search.... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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