[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by ed335d

Yup whenever you like (apart from when you're in Sainsburys - they don't like that kind of behaviour. Apparently)

Lol, sounds like the voice of experience.........many happy hours ahead then.

[E90Yaz]

Oh guys....i just thot of sumink else...how low are the autovogue BMWs?? We dont have very nice roads in essex and quite a few speed bumps!! I know the 20" rims probably raise it a bit but then lowering it and the lower bodykit probably causes some scrubbage issues with speed bumps etc...

[Mr_Patience]

Originally Posted by E90Yaz

Oh guys....i just thot of sumink else...how low are the autovogue BMWs?? We dont have very nice roads in essex and quite a few speed bumps!! I know the 20" rims probably raise it a bit but then lowering it and the lower bodykit probably causes some scrubbage issues with speed bumps etc...

Tyre profile will reduce as alloy rim diameter increases, so no change there......

...and in the urban dictionary Scrubbage means: - 1 definition - A term meaning many or multiple slutty girls.

So I'm not sure where you are heading there dude...

[dxb335d]

Mine takes 5w30...

I sell the stuff to if your interested.

[beemerbird]

This is the stuff:

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/produ...tentId=7027068

[E90Yaz]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

This is the stuff:

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/produ...tentId=7027068

Thanks for that! I use Castrol Edge 10W60 in my Celica....so yea its definitely good stuff!! Fully synthetic right? I may opt for 5W30 tho....just for that slight bit of thickness. Does this mean diesels run cooler than petrol cars?? My civic Type R was N/A and even that took 5W40 :s

[beemerbird]

All I can say is that my E92 335d used Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W30 as I was told to use by my BMW dealer and the owners handbook. Yes it's fully synthetic. Mine was re-mapped, driven how it should be driven and sods law, I never had to top it up once, even though I bought 1 litre of oil. Gave it to my Mum in the end lol as I sold the car.

I'd have a read of Castrol's website via that link I posted which will explain in more detail about modern high performance diesel engines and the oils required to lubricate and protect them.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

All I can say is that my E92 335d used Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W30 as I was told to use by my BMW dealer and the owners handbook. Yes it's fully synthetic. Mine was re-mapped, driven how it should be driven and sods law, I never had to top it up once, even though I bought 1 litre of oil. Gave it to my Mum in the end lol as I sold the car.

I'd have a read of Castrol's website via that link I posted which will explain in more detail about modern high performance diesel engines and the oils required to lubricate and protect them.

the castrol stuff is 5w30.

[willhollin]

0W-30 Edge Turbo Diesel is the one Castrol advise for all BMW 3 series denzil engines.

In reality, any BMW LL04 specification oil will do the job.

[dxb335d]

Oh i thought the can ive got says 5w30

Oh well... I have 5w 30 in mine at the mo. Does me.

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Oh i thought the can ive got says 5w30

Oh well... I have 5w 30 in mine at the mo. Does me.

Be fine mate.

[willhollin]

U fackin cant.

[willhollin]

I would be interested to see what Tony runs in his beast.

Tony did explain about the different grades and what characteristics they had, perhaps he will tell us again.

[beemerbird]

He'd had to condense alot of it as there's loads to know about oil viscosity.

I've endured an evening in the company of a production manager who works for BP and what he doesn't know about engine oils..............

There are 'better' oils available than the manufactuers standard issue recommendation but they're predominately for highly tuned/raced engines.

[E92Fan]

I do have to condense a lot of the information!!! No point really going into the SAE testing programmes and how/why oils are rated certain ways...

The basics are thus:

Modern multi-grade engine oils, like Castrol Edge or GTX or BMW Engine LL04 Oil use a two-number designation, like 0W-30 or 5W-30.

The first part of the number denotes the viscosity rating of the oil when cold, hence the use of the W letter which stands for "Winter". A 0W oil will be less viscous, or be easier to pump, at cold temperatures than a 5W oil or a 10W oil.

The second number denotes the viscosity rating of the oil at 100 degrees C. A 0W-30 rated oil will be less viscous, and therefore easier to pump, at 100 degrees C than a 0W-40 oil.

In both cases, the higher the number, the more viscous the oil is at that tested temperature.

A 0W oil will circulate around a cold engine a bit quicker than a 5W oil or 10W oil for instance, and in doing so might potentially help the engine warm quicker. However, there is a tendency for the oil to have fallen if the car has been standing for a while. A 10W oil will probably cling a bit better to engine components when cold, although you may lose a horsepower or two when cold as it's harder to get the oil circulating properly.

Having a 0W-40 oil as opposed to a 0W-30 oil will bring benefit to the engine when running at high temperatures, as the structure of the higher rated oil is retained better at 100 degrees C or higher. Diesel engines generally don't run that hot, as the rev range is limited, hence why 0W-30 is the standard. The high-revving petrol engines in comparison will benefit slightly from using 0W-40 due to the improved oil properties at high temperatures. If an oil becomes too thin you may get problems with oil seepage past pistons, excessive oil consumption, and ultimately poor protection.

Standard BMW oil is 0W-30 with LL04 (Longlife 2004) specification, whether that be for turbo diesel or petrol engines. LL04 supersedes the previous LL01 (Longlife 2001) designation and the main difference is in the sulphur compound content which is slightly lower in LL04 specification as it is designed to be used with the latest diesel particulate filters.

Castrol recommend using the Edge Sport 0W-40 oil in the petrol engines, and the Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30 for diesels. However, there are other oils out there of 5W-30 and 5W-40 ratings that conform to LL04 specification. Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 is just one example of an excellent alternative.

Castrol also do a Edge Sport 10W-60 (essentially the old Formula RS) which is designed for high-stressed, motorsport and competition engines and provides much better engine protection when running very hot and at high revs.

I personally am using Mobil Super XHP 15W-50 Motorsport oil. It keeps the engine running very smoothly and cleanly, especially at high engine speeds.

[E90Yaz]

GUYS LOOK WHAT I FOUND!! http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...arch_full.y=18 ITS THE 2nd one down!! I see this as a competitor to the autovogue ones!!

[AlanIOW]

Welcome to the forum

I had a Le Mans 320i Vert til March when I got an Alpine White 320d Auto vert with coral red leather. The white is much more of a head turner, its looks the better all round. Surprisingly its easier to keep clean as well. Don't whatever you do get a 320i they are useless, I, like several people on this forum got BMW to buy it back - Very long story!!

The 320D is currently doing 44.8mpg whereas the i only ever did 29mpg, the D engine is slightly noisier when cold and has a slight whease when going past walls when the top is down, but overall IMHO the engine noise is nicer than the i. I have fitted the Paddles to the steering wheel, which is standard on the 6 cylinder models, but it can be done and is fantastic. I also have a spider tuning box which gives about 210bhp and transforms the car.

[E90Yaz]

The white one got sold!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!