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      06-08-2009, 10:09 AM   #1
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e91 logig 7 upgrade to individual...

is this possible?
are the amp wiring and speakers connections same?

what is freq bandwith to logig 7 middle speaker in dashboard?
full band or is it cutted?

is it possible to upgrade individual coaxcial speaker to middle speaker
because i think there is only 4" woofer element there?
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is this possible?
are the amp wiring and speakers connections same?

what is freq bandwith to logig 7 middle speaker in dashboard?
full band or is it cutted?

is it possible to upgrade individual coaxcial speaker to middle speaker
because i think there is only 4" woofer element there?
Everything is possible... with enough money.

Most of wiring and the OEM connectors are the same between the Logic7 and the Individual Audio. Of course, the speakers, the front doors wiring and crossovers and the OEM amp are different.

The center speaker bandwidth is actively bandpassed using the standards of the Logic7 processing. The DIRAC processing in the Individual audio does that as well using their standards.

The Logic7 4" speakers are half the impedance rating of the Individual Audio's, so replacing any of the Logic7 4" speakers with the Individual Audio's will reduce the power of that speaker -thus its volume level- effectively in half.
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thanks for quick answer...

so its not worth it then,how about installing individual amp to my logic 7 so that i can get little more power to my system?
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You need to think of these as closed systems.

If you connected an individual amp (rated for lower impedance than L7 speakers) to L7 speakers of higher impedance, you probably wouldn't get any noticeable power increase.

You probably need to upgrade your system via the aftermarket.
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thanks for quick answer...

so its not worth it then,how about installing individual amp to my logic 7 so that i can get little more power to my system?
You will definitely blow up the Individual Audio amp if you run Logic7 speakers with it... as said before, the Logic7 speakers (mids/highs are 2 ohms, underseat woofers are 4 ohms) are half the impedance of the Individual Audio speakers (mid/highs are 4 ohms, underseat woofers are 7 ohms).

I tried 4 ohms SWS-8 as underseat woofers with my Individual Audio amp and any decent bass note caused the Amp into thermal/overcurrent protection.
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ok good to know...

so i would had to change both speakers and amp...
can this be done? speaker wiring/position and amp wiring...

i would like to keep OEM bmw speakers so no bsw...
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ok good to know...

so i would had to change both speakers and amp...
can this be done? speaker wiring/position and amp wiring...

i would like to keep OEM bmw speakers so no bsw...
Hardware-wise, a complete (amp, speakers) Logic7 to Individual Audio swap should be plug 'n play. However, software-wise I don't know if the digital signal going into the Logic7 amp is fully compatible with what the Individual Audio amp is expecting.

I bet that it should be 98% compatible as the audio and basic adjustment data should be exactly the same, it is the 2% left (surround modes, display information) that could make it not compatible or cause issues.
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thanks for information...

and if i ask dealers shop they dont have any idea heh...
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Technic, you think he might need recoding?
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