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      06-19-2009, 04:09 PM   #45
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I would not say the F is faster than the M in the final analysis. It is probably easier to drive at its maximum potential than the M (certainly in a straight line ).
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      06-19-2009, 05:25 PM   #46
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i think its gonna be fun either way. i definately need to be on race gas and map 8
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      06-19-2009, 05:30 PM   #47
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why not compare apples to apples...and run pump gas. anyways...who drives around on race gas...like an idiot.

the IS-F isn't that fast anyways...felt a little gutless when I drove it. it's a like a high 12 sec car.


I igree...Is-f is a hight 12 sec car...that all
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      06-19-2009, 10:05 PM   #48
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my friends jb3 on stage 7 map with 100 octane gas put maybe 3+ busses on a is350 from 40-120.

I doubt a isF will do same to a is350.
Umm, oh yeah it will.


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why not compare apples to apples...and run pump gas. anyways...who drives around on race gas...like an idiot.

the IS-F isn't that fast anyways...felt a little gutless when I drove it. it's a like a high 12 sec car.
Apples to apples would mean IS-F vs M3, not 335i
Or give the 335i $10k in mods so the price spent is apples to apples.
There are so many other variables, gas octane doesn't determine "apples to apples" unless you are racing the same car (ie: tuned 335i vs tuned 335i) then you'd need to both be on pump gas to be apples to apples.
When racing, you show up with what you want, especially when racing a more expensive car with a bigger engine. The IS-F driver is free to put in race gas too you know.
Many do drive on a race gas mix full time too.

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I would not say the F is faster than the M in the final analysis. It is probably easier to drive at its maximum potential than the M (certainly in a straight line ).
Yes it is. It has slightly faster trap speeds than the M3 that's for sure.


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I igree...Is-f is a hight 12 sec car...that all
More like mid 12's, M3 is mid to high 12's car stock.
Look here:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lexus-IS-F-Timeslip-17085.html
**DR's are usually good for .1-.2 seconds. Notice trap speed too.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lexus-IS-F-Timeslip-16729.html
Same guy but this time removed spare tire and engine cover to save a bit of weight.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lexus-IS-F-Timeslip-15615.html
New England Dragway is known to be a pretty fast track. But 12.5 @ 117 mph is pretty darn fast for a stock IS-F regardless. No stock M3 on any track has put that kind of time down.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lexus-IS-F-Timeslip-16730.html
Another essentially stock IS-F. Had minor weight reduction with spare tire, jack and engine cover off.

But I think it's safe to say the IS-f is a mid 12's car with many in the 12.4-12.6 range.
And with trap speeds ranging from 113-117 mph it seems to be a bit faster than the M3's which seem to do 112-115 mph stock.
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      06-19-2009, 10:22 PM   #49
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my friends jb3 on stage 7 map with 100 octane gas put maybe 3+ busses on a is350 from 40-120.

I doubt a isF will do same to a is350.
335i is slightly faster than IS350 stock.
If you don't think an IS-F could put 3+ busses on a IS350, you're kidding yourself.
Take a look at this video:


And the IS-F took off a bit after the 335i and the IS-F only has 1000 miles on the car (as they stated in the video and the guys in the 335i could smell the newness of the IS-F's engine burning).

And again the IS-F takes off late (those idiots don't know how to do a 3 honk and go run).



The IS-F is a fast car, no doubt. And like all NA V8's in performance cars, they will do better at triple digit speeds than the N54 which starts to get a bit heat soaked.

That said, as I stated, 100 Octane and Map 8 should be sufficient to run ahead from 40-100, equal from 100-130.

Map 9 should keep the 335i ahead to 150

Funny how some of the Lexus guys are calling the BMW guys "****" and "girl cars". And they drive the Lexus. Most Lexus owners are old, or women.
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roozie call/txt me when you guys decide to meet up, i'd like to come watch/video tape it.. hopefully i'll have my helix fmic put in tomorrow morning.. the bugs started coming out so I called it quits tonight
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      06-20-2009, 02:54 AM   #51
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roozie call/txt me when you guys decide to meet up, i'd like to come watch/video tape it.. hopefully i'll have my helix fmic put in tomorrow morning.. the bugs started coming out so I called it quits tonight
for sure bro. video taping it would be sweet so we can post it up. win or lose i wanna know how i did. Hell you should run the guy if your putting on the FMIC. Map 9...104 octane.
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      06-20-2009, 03:11 AM   #52
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Jesus. Three pages of this bullshit. It doesn't matter who's car is ahead at the end of the run. The IS-F driver loses because he has tailpipes that are fucking GAY and everyone points to them and laughs!!! The IS350 is a decent looking car. The IS-F looks retarded.
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Jesus. Three pages of this bullshit. It doesn't matter who's car is ahead at the end of the run. The IS-F driver loses because he has tailpipes that are fucking GAY and everyone points to them and laughs!!! The IS350 is a decent looking car. The IS-F looks retarded.
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..than the N54 which starts to get a bit heat soaked.
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oy.. i took out an IS-F easily with JB3 map 6 on 1.22 with FMIC and DCI.. from a 50 roll, had about 2-3 cars on the guy.. most modded 335s should have no problem walking one
At the top end, even on a first run, an upgraded FMIC will come in handy. If you do more than one run, you could see 40-60 degree cooler air intake temps with an upgraded FMIC. If you don't have one, the tune or DME is going to pull power and you will probably get stomped.
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Jesus. Three pages of this bullshit. It doesn't matter who's car is ahead at the end of the run. The IS-F driver loses because he has tailpipes that are fucking GAY and everyone points to them and laughs!!! The IS350 is a decent looking car. The IS-F looks retarded.
youre a tool
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