[r0cketman]

All this is new to me as I've never purchased a new car before.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I am looking to purchase a 2010 335ix sedan with:
-metallic paint
-dakota leather interior
-sport package
-cold winter package
MSRP $47,475
Invoice $43,700 (from edmunds.com)

A dealer quote me $42,300 to include the $2500 winter cashback (and financing with BMW).

1) Does the dealer make anything from the $2500 cashback or it's transparent to them?
2) Should I be negotiating as close to invoice before getting the $2500 cashback?

With ED, the dealer got the price to $40,900. This means I'm only saving additional $1,400 from the first price he quoted.
3) Shouldn't it be $2,960 savings as stated on the bmw website?

MSRP $42,300
ED MSRP $39,340
Savings $2,960

Thanks in advance.

[r0cketman]

Is the above a good price?

[akbm3]

Deals vary be region, but in general this looks like a good deal ($1,100 over Invoice, plus the additional $2,500 BMW Finance cash back offer). This is a better deal than I got, but pricing tends be higher where I live (Dallas) and I still came in a few hundred better the Edmund's FMV for my car.

I got my 2010 E90 335i for $1,801.50 over invoice.
- MSRP: $54,332.84
- Invoice: $50,313.95
- Negotiated Price: $52,115.00

Negotiated price is before the $2,500 BMW Finance cash back offer and the BMW Car Club of America $500 rebate, so my final price before TT&L will be $49,115.

Specs for my E90 335i:
- Jet Black
- Oyster and Black Leather
- Light Burl Walnut Trim
- Sport Package
- Premium Package
- Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters
- Navigation
- Logic 7 Sound System
- iPod and USB Adaptor
- Heated Seats
- Comfort Access
- BMW Performance Power Kit ($2,372.50 MSRP for Port Install)
- BMW Performance Aluminum Pedals ($235.34 MSRP for Dealer Install)

[rambalu80]

I paid $750.00 over invoice back in May 2007 in Houston for my 328i and it was not a car on the dealers lot. I reckon you can do about the same if not better now.

[r0cketman]

Thanks for the info guys!
The negotiated price will vary depending on dealer so I've still got lots homework and legwork left to do.
To me the $2500 cashback is good reason to buy and the dealers all quote me numbers that include this cashback. When you look at it, it's still $1k over invoice before 2500 cashback is deducted.
As everyone else, I want to get the best price possible.
Dealers are using the cashback incentive to tell customers their number is below or close to invoice. The seems like a good deal but we pay the tax on it first before the cashback amount is deducted plus now have to finance with BMW.
I think this cashback just makes it easier on the dealers to come back to customers to as close to invoice price as possible. I read the forums that people are getting cars for$500 plus over invoice. I'm not sure this is possible with the current cashback program. Sigh.. I guess it all comes down to what each person is comfortable with paying for it and how much they willing to negotiate.

Happy Holidays!!

[luv135i]

You should be able to get to at least 500 to 1000 over invoice BEFORE the cashback incentive. Some have even gotten right at invoice before cash back. I wouldnt accept any deal from a dealership that is already using the cashback bonus to get there price close to invoice.