KDS Wheel Alignment

Coxy318d · 01-25-2010, 08:12 AM

In the snow we had for the past two weeks i hit the pavment and had to get the wheel alignment done and it cost round £313inc VAT. but they found another problem with it like the wheel shants

so was not happy. so if i was you try not to damage the wheels.

What the KDS wheel alignment does go to this site it will help you
http://www.hunter-d.de/us/product/OE...E-05/index.htm

doughboy · 01-25-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coxy318d

.....like the wheel shants......

What does that mean??

JLR1969 · 01-31-2010, 05:42 PM

Just done the same thing! What was your total bill and list of damage

Neil McRae · 02-01-2010, 06:52 AM

Jesus that sounds alot. I had my M3 done in 06 and it cost me 70quid for a full alignment. One of the front wheels was well out too.

Em135eye · 02-01-2010, 06:55 AM

£313?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had mine done for £30 when I had my tyres fitted!

HighlandPete · 02-01-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 335diesel

£313?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had mine done for £30 when I had my tyres fitted!

Don't think so. Surely not a four wheel 'weighted' full KDS, or Hunter alignment. Sounds like a quick front toe check. Or you have a shop who doesn't charge the going rate.

HighlandPete

Dave_3 · 02-01-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 335diesel

Had mine done for £30 when I had my tyres fitted!

£30 wouldn't even cover the time it takes to link your car to the KDS equipment, never mind going about checking all the setup values and making adjustments.

Sounds more like a set of old optical mirrors .... toe in/out but not in relation to the mid-line of your car. No way to check if everything is true - especially when you take the front and rear axles in relation to each other (both can have spot on toe settings but be working like a crab).

D.

Em135eye · 02-01-2010, 07:27 AM

Sorry I was just talking about wheel alignment in general, not a KDS one!

There's always something else to spend a big wad of cash on.

I'l stick to using the "mirrors and bits of string" technique for now!

chris330D · 02-01-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 335diesel

Sorry I was just talking about wheel alignment in general, not a KDS one!

There's always something else to spend a big wad of cash on.

I'l stick to using the "mirrors and bits of string" technique for now!

Haven't you posted about wheel vibration??

doughboy · 02-01-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coxy318d

In the snow we had for the past two weeks i hit the pavment and had to get the wheel alignment done and it cost round £313inc VAT

That's about what they charged me after I hit a speed bump at 50mph and took it for a full KDS align.

2 hours was the fee, that's 2 x 145 at my dealers (+ vat of course)

Em135eye · 02-01-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chris330D

Haven't you posted about wheel vibration??

Yes but it's now sorted.

jonnyuk06 · 02-03-2010, 08:19 AM

i've recently stuck 4 new tyres on my motor. fitters told me there was wear on the inside of the left rear and bit on the both fronts.
got a price of £216 for a kds check at the dealers but found a local place doing hunter wheel alignment for £60 all in. i read somewhere that the kds kit bm use is the hunter machines? any know if this is correct, if not would a hunter alignment be ok?

cheers

doughboy · 02-03-2010, 08:40 AM

Hunter is name of a US company that make various types of wheel alignment equipment.

They also make the KDS set especially for BMW vehicles and to BMW specification.

So a KDS set is made specially for BMWs, but that's not to say other Hunter optical aligners are not as good, just not BMW specific.

The site below is the UK Hunter site

http://www.alignmycar.co.uk/

Alpina_B3_Lux · 02-03-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Don't think so. Surely not a four wheel 'weighted' full KDS, or Hunter alignment. Sounds like a quick front toe check. Or you have a shop who doesn't charge the going rate.

HighlandPete

+1

Birds quoted me 223£ plus VAT for KDS alignment, which seems in line with the price mentioned above.

Alpina_B3_Lux

zedman · 02-03-2010, 11:36 AM

I had mine done at a not so local BMW dealer for the princely sum of £134.00 inclusive of VAT - and they picked up and dropped off.

i thought it was rather decent!

Jeff123 · 02-03-2010, 11:39 AM

Hi

Followed your link above and found a Hunter alignment garage in my area (Huddersfield). Had a full alignment check yesterday and paid £45. It took just over an hour and I got a print-out - before and after.

The garage was c6 people strong and I got talking to the owner. He reckons that the machines are the best on the market and has a contract to align Mercs and Mazda's under warranty. He reckons that he does loads of Mazda's with c1,000 miles on the clock that have been set wrong by the factory.

My car is 2 years old and is showing makor wear on the inner edges of the runflats - I have only owned it a month. The BMW dealer where I bought the car says that the tyres are above 3mm tread, so they are OK. The Hunter alignment showed that, of the 12 measurements that are checked, 8 were out of tolerance. One was so far out that it was off the end of the scale and just registered as a X - as opposed to a figure in red.

The guys said that this is probably why the tyres are wearing and that the car will drive better. So far, it seems fine to me.

On a separate (but similar) issue, I am still unhappy with the whole runflat scenario. I really think that BMW should be giving owners better advice, not leaving things to Moderators on threads such as this. The owner yesterday said that BMW's are set up for runflats - but this is what the people from BMW said to him. A thing that I can't get my head around is, my car is a 320d M Sport on runflats. They have the same runflat tyres on the SE - a much softer ride supposedly. Also, the ES supposedly has normal tyres with runflats as an option, yet the ES is the same suspension set-up as the SE?

As I see it, BMW should take the initiative and inform owners of the tyre permutations and what they recommend. They shoud be ahead of the game, not reacting to it. I said to mt local dealer the other day - "what type of runflat are you recommending for a smoother ride?" He just said that they will fit any tyre that I asked for - it's up to me!!!

Jeff

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Coxy318d Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 318d its my frist Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	KDS Wheel Alignment In the snow we had for the past two weeks i hit the pavment and had to get the wheel alignment done and it cost round £313inc VAT. but they found another problem with it like the wheel shants so was not happy. so if i was you try not to damage the wheels. What the KDS wheel alignment does go to this site it will help you http://www.hunter-d.de/us/product/OE...E-05/index.htm
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jonnyuk06 Lieutenant 27 Rep 412 Posts Drives: 330d SE Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK...Leicester iTrader: (3)	i've recently stuck 4 new tyres on my motor. fitters told me there was wear on the inside of the left rear and bit on the both fronts. got a price of £216 for a kds check at the dealers but found a local place doing hunter wheel alignment for £60 all in. i read somewhere that the kds kit bm use is the hunter machines? any know if this is correct, if not would a hunter alignment be ok? cheers
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doughboy Major General 1578 Rep 8,971 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 Comp 6MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	Hunter is name of a US company that make various types of wheel alignment equipment. They also make the KDS set especially for BMW vehicles and to BMW specification. So a KDS set is made specially for BMWs, but that's not to say other Hunter optical aligners are not as good, just not BMW specific. The site below is the UK Hunter site http://www.alignmycar.co.uk/
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zedman First Lieutenant 15 Rep 389 Posts Drives: E92 M Sport 320D, Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sheffield iTrader: (0)	I had mine done at a not so local BMW dealer for the princely sum of £134.00 inclusive of VAT - and they picked up and dropped off. i thought it was rather decent!
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Jeff123 Jeff 303 Rep 1,451 Posts Drives: 330d M Sport x-drive F30 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	Hi Followed your link above and found a Hunter alignment garage in my area (Huddersfield). Had a full alignment check yesterday and paid £45. It took just over an hour and I got a print-out - before and after. The garage was c6 people strong and I got talking to the owner. He reckons that the machines are the best on the market and has a contract to align Mercs and Mazda's under warranty. He reckons that he does loads of Mazda's with c1,000 miles on the clock that have been set wrong by the factory. My car is 2 years old and is showing makor wear on the inner edges of the runflats - I have only owned it a month. The BMW dealer where I bought the car says that the tyres are above 3mm tread, so they are OK. The Hunter alignment showed that, of the 12 measurements that are checked, 8 were out of tolerance. One was so far out that it was off the end of the scale and just registered as a X - as opposed to a figure in red. The guys said that this is probably why the tyres are wearing and that the car will drive better. So far, it seems fine to me. On a separate (but similar) issue, I am still unhappy with the whole runflat scenario. I really think that BMW should be giving owners better advice, not leaving things to Moderators on threads such as this. The owner yesterday said that BMW's are set up for runflats - but this is what the people from BMW said to him. A thing that I can't get my head around is, my car is a 320d M Sport on runflats. They have the same runflat tyres on the SE - a much softer ride supposedly. Also, the ES supposedly has normal tyres with runflats as an option, yet the ES is the same suspension set-up as the SE? As I see it, BMW should take the initiative and inform owners of the tyre permutations and what they recommend. They shoud be ahead of the game, not reacting to it. I said to mt local dealer the other day - "what type of runflat are you recommending for a smoother ride?" He just said that they will fit any tyre that I asked for - it's up to me!!! Jeff
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