[nemith]

Well to try to get this post back on the rails. I have loaded JB3 2.0 beta onto my car and I will say it makes driving as a daily-driver much better since the power is no longer "lungy"

I will not make any claims for or against Procede V4 as I have not driven or even rode inside a car with it but I think Shiv are after the same technical goal of trying to increase boost response with the throttle and although it seems like they are approaching it two serperate ways.

The cool thing is that we get to decide. Try to attend a group ride or something and get some first hand impressions of either tune and decide for yourself. All the anonymous Internet bashing in the world is not going to make one tune better or worse.