320d SE E90 163 or 177bhp ??????

zebedee · 02-25-2010, 04:01 PM

How can I tell if my model is 163 or 177bhp.

I have only just bought it and the previous owner advertised it as 177 (although I bought it thinking he had made a mistake).

It was registered in July 2005, so Im thinking earlier models must have been the lower bhp models.

chris330D · 02-25-2010, 04:12 PM

July 2005 will be 163 at best. I had an 06 320d and that was 163, can't remember when it went from 150 to 163. If it was advertised as 177 you've got a case against the seller.

Cafe.Racer · 02-25-2010, 04:26 PM

177 was out not longer after mine, so late 07 plates and 57 plates.

163 has a downturned exhaust, 177 has a DPF so it has a straight exit exhaust.

zebedee · 02-25-2010, 04:29 PM

I am happy enough with the performance, and did some checks of the bhp before I bought it, but I thought the E90 was only 163 or 177 (I hope its not 150).

I did question the seller about his advert stating 177, but he acted dumb, but I bought it in my own mind thinking it was 163, if it turns out to be 177 all well and good.

I just wondered if there was anyway of telling the difference by looking at the engine or something.

zebedee · 02-25-2010, 04:32 PM

Cafe.Racer, thanks, mine has down turn exhaust, and is 2005. So that answers that.

chris330D · 02-25-2010, 04:37 PM

You should have an owners manual which will give you the specs but it is a 163 from what you describe.

zebedee · 02-25-2010, 05:29 PM

I am an engineer and a man....you dont expect me to have read the manual do you??? :-)

But you are correct, just looked up the specs in the book and again confirms 163. Thanks.

SiKkBaSs · 02-25-2010, 07:42 PM

Re-map it

/confusion

zebedee · 02-25-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SiKkBaSs

Re-map it

/confusion

I intend to, but there seems to be so many different companies, and Im so confused at the moment.

SiKkBaSs · 02-25-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zebedee

I intend to, but there seems to be so many different companies, and Im so confused at the moment.

Well it's better to confuse yourself with your remap potential rather than what HP your car came as stock

DMS or Evolve I'd suggest...

(I'm a petrol (fan)boy)

MEGA · 02-26-2010, 04:24 AM

Up in Scotland with a 163 I'd say take a punt with angel tuning. They are local and the scottish outfit (unlike the midlands one) is very well respected.

Mud · 02-26-2010, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SiKkBaSs

Well it's better to confuse yourself with your remap potential rather than what HP your car came as stock

DMS or Evolve I'd suggest...

What base car you have ends up having an affect on what you get from a remap

zebedee · 02-26-2010, 06:24 AM

MEGA, thanks for that, they were my first choice as two friends had recommended them, and price wise they were very competative and convenient considering my location.

I am certainly impressed with the standard performance having come from a 103bhp VW passat (although currently got a Passat hire car for a week, and this is a different machine, think it might be the 140 or170bhp model) and before that a 140bhp Mondeo.

But to think I can go up to nearly 200bhp with a remap will seem staggering.

I want to try and hold of for maybe a month or so and get use to the car in standard trim and get a good few tanks of Diesel used to get a good mpg figure, to then see the comparison.

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zebedee Enlisted Member 4 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 320d se Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: edinburgh iTrader: (0)	320d SE E90 163 or 177bhp ?????? How can I tell if my model is 163 or 177bhp. I have only just bought it and the previous owner advertised it as 177 (although I bought it thinking he had made a mistake). It was registered in July 2005, so Im thinking earlier models must have been the lower bhp models.
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chris330D Major 38 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	July 2005 will be 163 at best. I had an 06 320d and that was 163, can't remember when it went from 150 to 163. If it was advertised as 177 you've got a case against the seller.
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Cafe.Racer Captain 31 Rep 896 Posts Drives: 320d Touring Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham, UK iTrader: (1)	177 was out not longer after mine, so late 07 plates and 57 plates. 163 has a downturned exhaust, 177 has a DPF so it has a straight exit exhaust. __________________ Phil
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zebedee Enlisted Member 4 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 320d se Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: edinburgh iTrader: (0)	I am happy enough with the performance, and did some checks of the bhp before I bought it, but I thought the E90 was only 163 or 177 (I hope its not 150). I did question the seller about his advert stating 177, but he acted dumb, but I bought it in my own mind thinking it was 163, if it turns out to be 177 all well and good. I just wondered if there was anyway of telling the difference by looking at the engine or something.
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zebedee Enlisted Member 4 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 320d se Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: edinburgh iTrader: (0)	Cafe.Racer, thanks, mine has down turn exhaust, and is 2005. So that answers that.
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chris330D Major 38 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	You should have an owners manual which will give you the specs but it is a 163 from what you describe.
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zebedee Enlisted Member 4 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 320d se Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: edinburgh iTrader: (0)	I am an engineer and a man....you dont expect me to have read the manual do you??? :-) But you are correct, just looked up the specs in the book and again confirms 163. Thanks.
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SiKkBaSs GTR'in it 178 Rep 4,434 Posts Drives: Nissan GTR Black Edition Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kensington, London iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Re-map it /confusion
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MEGA Dieseasal 209 Rep 6,881 Posts Drives: LCI E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Harrow, London iTrader: (2)	Up in Scotland with a 163 I'd say take a punt with angel tuning. They are local and the scottish outfit (unlike the midlands one) is very well respected. __________________ Previously: 2003 Peugeot 206 1.6 8v \| 2006 E90 320d M-Sport, 19" BBS CH, Full Ice-cold JL audio install, August 2010 Total BMW 6 page feature car. \| 2003 Nissan 350Z GT Coupe 286BHP Now:2010 E92 LCI 335d M-Sport
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zebedee Enlisted Member 4 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 320d se Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: edinburgh iTrader: (0)	MEGA, thanks for that, they were my first choice as two friends had recommended them, and price wise they were very competative and convenient considering my location. I am certainly impressed with the standard performance having come from a 103bhp VW passat (although currently got a Passat hire car for a week, and this is a different machine, think it might be the 140 or170bhp model) and before that a 140bhp Mondeo. But to think I can go up to nearly 200bhp with a remap will seem staggering. I want to try and hold of for maybe a month or so and get use to the car in standard trim and get a good few tanks of Diesel used to get a good mpg figure, to then see the comparison.
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