[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by zltm089

Stage 4, will get the revs higher, so when stage 5 happens, i.e gear change, the revs will be already in the "high" range, making it a bit smoother...

Yes that's my point but it shouldn't cause your speed to increase unless you then actively apply more throttle.

[marcel b]

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[marcel b]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

You should try it on a bike!

Engine braking on bikes is insane, my instructor taught us about it but we were learning on 400cc bikes. On a 600cc and 1000cc bike the effect is MUCH more pronounced and I've seen even experienced riders locking wheels if they don't get their throttle blip just right or if they're a bit aggressive letting the clutch out on a downshift.

The first time I did it....well, let's just say I needed a change of pants. Picture it, I'm out on a country back-road coming up to a tight turn, I brake late but in a straight line, drop a gear and let the clutch out just as I lean the bike over to make the turn. The back wheel locks up and steps out by what felt like a frickin' mile! In reality I imagine the "step-out" was barely a couple of inches, but when there's nothing but air between you and the asphalt believe me it feels like a lot more!

Luckily my leathers contained anything that fell out of my butt!!

Can immagine you needed a pantschange!

For me it was a simular experience... It was a narrow road steep downhill, on the right there was a wall (cliff), on the right just big stones and next to it steep cliff down.... shifting back, lift the clutch, backwheels lock, back starts sliding left, right, left right. I though I would crash in wall or stones and was trying to keep the car straight with countersteering. DSC doesn't help here as the backaxle is blocked... When I got it under control I stopped and walked around my car to see if I really didn't hit anything. I drove home slowly
I came from an Audi A3 quatro with DSG and had to adjust my driving skills... obviously.

[toxicnerve]

I can see the forum is still misbehaving!

Regarding our experiences, I think we learn the best lessons when we actually make mistakes we make...as with the rest of life!!