Exactly one month after buying my '07 e92 335i...had to get it towed

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 10:20 AM

Was driving about 80 on the interstate yesterday...all of a sudden...I lost power steering. Then, the A/C started blowing hot air.

The idrive said "charging malfunction"...and the warning icon next to the tach was a picture of a battery.

I guess, if the battery is going out, that the car just starts robbing power from anything that might be using the electrical power? Does it sound like an alternator problem?

It just surprised me that the system would shut off the power steering like that for a battery issue.

I got it towed to my local dealership today, as it's still under warranty. I guess we'll see what they say.

Bimmer This · 04-06-2010, 10:25 AM

I think it's because you have electric steering. Could be a alternator problem or just a bad cell in the battery?

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer This

I think it's because you have electric steering. Could be a alternator problem or just a bad cell in the battery?

Yeah, I was surprised that the car had no trouble starting if it's a battery problem.

I was able to start it this morning to put it on the flatbed...and to back it off of the truck when I got it to the BMW dealership.

slowSwede · 04-06-2010, 12:58 PM

Had an electric glitch in my E46 which turned off every system one by one.
The glitch was the main cable from the battery beeing somewhat loose. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn´t.
Anyhow, it turned off the systems one by one starting with the least important ones. Shortly after locking (it´s an AT) the gearbox it died slowly.
After 10 minutes I could start it up again and sometimes go for a couple of weeks. They did find the loose cable in service and since then it runs ok.

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 02:16 PM

just talked to the SA...and they said they thought it might be the HPFP....

which sounds weird to me because the engine didn't seem to lose any power...just the steering and A/C....

doesn't sound typical of the HPFP problems i've read about on here.

BMWinNorthdakota · 04-06-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bsv2316

just talked to the SA...and they said they thought it might be the HPFP....

which sounds weird to me because the engine didn't seem to lose any power...just the steering and A/C....

doesn't sound typical of the HPFP problems i've read about on here.

Lol, just wait... BMW will start using HPFP as a cop out more and more..

LAME!

Best of luck..Wish I could help

midshrink · 04-06-2010, 03:20 PM

Sounds like an alternator problem to me...

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWinNorthdakota

Lol, just wait... BMW will start using HPFP as a cop out more and more..

LAME!

Best of luck..Wish I could help

thanks....

I told them that I didn't think it was the HPFP due to the symptoms i had seen described with HPFP issues.

They said it will be tomorrow before they can really take a good look at it...they are going to rent a car through enterprise for me.

Also agree w/ the alternator diagnosis.

jrsniper12453 · 04-06-2010, 05:46 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301535

also this. which is what happened to me too i believe.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302265

m1t3000 · 04-06-2010, 06:09 PM

Guaranteed that is a fan belt issue. No way is it the HPFP. Your belt snapped - it's mechanical so don't sweat it. If the car is still under warranty you're golden and even if it's not - not that expensive to fix.

Enjoy the new car and don't let this sway you.

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jrsniper12453

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301535

also this. which is what happened to me too i believe.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302265

thanks for the links and info

Barbera335 · 04-06-2010, 08:05 PM

Make sure you insist to your SA that you get the updated subframe installed in your car as well. This subframe provides extra clearance between the power steering pump pulley and the subframe itself. If you don't get the subframe, and not all dealers change them with this repair. You run the risk of having this happen to you again.

bsv2316 · 04-06-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbera335

Make sure you insist to your SA that you get the updated subframe installed in your car as well. This subframe provides extra clearance between the power steering pump pulley and the subframe itself. If you don't get the subframe, and not all dealers change them with this repair. You run the risk of having this happen to you again.

I'll call them in the morning...tell them what I think it might be...and then suggest that they change the subframe if it is.

bsv2316 · 04-07-2010, 09:26 AM

does anybody have a link to the subframe service bulletin?

found it...

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B110908g.htm

bsv2316 · 04-12-2010, 12:56 PM

getting my car back today.

they didn't do anything about the subframe because they said there was no indication of contact.

not happy.

33five · 04-12-2010, 02:47 PM

alternator or battery issue

E92-Lighting · 04-12-2010, 05:10 PM

it does seem like the alternator went bad

bsv2316 · 04-12-2010, 07:59 PM

it was the alternator drive belt

04-06-2010, 10:20 AM	#1
bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	Exactly one month after buying my '07 e92 335i...had to get it towed Was driving about 80 on the interstate yesterday...all of a sudden...I lost power steering. Then, the A/C started blowing hot air. The idrive said "charging malfunction"...and the warning icon next to the tach was a picture of a battery. I guess, if the battery is going out, that the car just starts robbing power from anything that might be using the electrical power? Does it sound like an alternator problem? It just surprised me that the system would shut off the power steering like that for a battery issue. I got it towed to my local dealership today, as it's still under warranty. I guess we'll see what they say.
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Bimmer This Major General 99 Rep 6,473 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Westminster iTrader: (3)	I think it's because you have electric steering. Could be a alternator problem or just a bad cell in the battery?
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slowSwede Lieutenant 22 Rep 549 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Skåne iTrader: (0)	Had an electric glitch in my E46 which turned off every system one by one. The glitch was the main cable from the battery beeing somewhat loose. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn´t. Anyhow, it turned off the systems one by one starting with the least important ones. Shortly after locking (it´s an AT) the gearbox it died slowly. After 10 minutes I could start it up again and sometimes go for a couple of weeks. They did find the loose cable in service and since then it runs ok.
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bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	just talked to the SA...and they said they thought it might be the HPFP.... which sounds weird to me because the engine didn't seem to lose any power...just the steering and A/C.... doesn't sound typical of the HPFP problems i've read about on here.
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midshrink Bimmer Newbie 0 Rep 41 Posts Drives: 2010 E90 328i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 328i [0.00]	Sounds like an alternator problem to me...
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jrsniper12453 Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 229 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas/LA iTrader: (0)	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301535 also this. which is what happened to me too i believe. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302265 __________________ 2007 335i, Space Gray, Black/Alum, Sports, Prem, CA, Navi, iPod Last edited by jrsniper12453; 04-06-2010 at 05:51 PM.. Reason: more info
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04-06-2010, 06:09 PM	#10
m1t3000 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Guaranteed that is a fan belt issue. No way is it the HPFP. Your belt snapped - it's mechanical so don't sweat it. If the car is still under warranty you're golden and even if it's not - not that expensive to fix. Enjoy the new car and don't let this sway you.
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Barbera335 Captain 172 Rep 659 Posts Drives: F25 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: socal iTrader: (0)	Make sure you insist to your SA that you get the updated subframe installed in your car as well. This subframe provides extra clearance between the power steering pump pulley and the subframe itself. If you don't get the subframe, and not all dealers change them with this repair. You run the risk of having this happen to you again.
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bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	does anybody have a link to the subframe service bulletin? found it... http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B110908g.htm Last edited by bsv2316; 04-07-2010 at 11:28 AM..
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bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	getting my car back today. they didn't do anything about the subframe because they said there was no indication of contact. not happy.
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33five Captain 37 Rep 631 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Norcal iTrader: (10)	alternator or battery issue
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E92-Lighting 873 Rep 35,253 Posts Drives: Next Generation LED Lighting Join Date: May 2008 Location: Walnut iTrader: (324)	it does seem like the alternator went bad
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bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	it was the alternator drive belt
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