[RiXst3r]

What caused the CEL's ?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

What caused the CEL's ?

That's all proprietary info of course

shiv

[DrDomer]

The man can't divulge his secrets. Especially with the Xede guys peddling their wears around here. Just be like me.. I don't care how it works, as long as it works. I can't wait for that box to show up at my house.

[vase330]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Interesting, b/c I never had that problem, and mine is also an AT as well. Did you correct in the XEDE before you got to us in S. FL or was it just corrected with the PROcede?

SFLgator, I think you are in a really hot place too compared to AHY and the other two posters. I notice they all point to the cold start being one of the factors under which this shows up. I placed my ED order and think I will buy the Procede, take it with me on the trip and go bahn-bashing when I pick my car up. I will post the expirience here and make all you Procede owners wish you could rewind the clock...hahaha.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by vase330

SFLgator, I think you are in a really hot place too compared to AHY and the other two posters. I notice they all point to the cold start being one of the factors under which this shows up. I placed my ED order and think I will buy the Procede, take it with me on the trip and go bahn-bashing when I pick my car up. I will post the expirience here and make all you Procede owners wish you could rewind the clock...hahaha.

If you get it in time, then go for it and HAVE FUN!!! Of course, either way, it will be a blast and a once-in-a-lifetime experience!

[Ninjaneer]

This morning it was 34 degrees!!! I never thought I'd get the frost warning in FL

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Ninjaneer

This morning it was 34 degrees!!! I never thought I'd get the frost warning in FL

Yeah, and I was up super early this morning and left @ 6:15AM. Although my car was in my garage all night, after leaving, my temp gauge in my car said it was 42 degrees F; my car was still super smooth from the cold start all the way until it warmed up...no cold-start issues here.

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Nope.. the shortcoming in the hardware was/is still present. It just didn't manifest itself in every car. I'd say 1 out of 4 beta xede cars ended up having some sort of sporatic CEL issue. All fixed with the PROcede of course

shiv

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

That's all proprietary info of course

shiv

Ok, fine, then riddle me this...

if there were "some cars" that have issues with the XEDE, how can you be sure that there wont be "some cars" that have an issue like this with the PROceed.

All I care is that you know why it happened, and you know exactly how you fixed it... not just a "the proceed fixed this"... like it just went away, and you didnt know why...

Men hide in darkness when their deeds are evil...

Label me paranoid, I dont care... I just want to make sure I get my $1300 bucks worth, and dont end up going into limp mode, and using the OBD scan tool to clear errors all the time of course

[WilyB]

BMW uses the ZF G 6-speed manual transmission in the 335i as well as the 330d and 330dxi.

I checked on the Europeans BMW web sites, and the 335D is ONLY available with the 6-sp autobox.

Do you have credible source about a 335D manual?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Ok, fine, then riddle me this...

if there were "some cars" that have issues with the XEDE, how can you be sure that there wont be "some cars" that have an issue like this with the PROceed.

All I care is that you know why it happened, and you know exactly how you fixed it... not just a "the proceed fixed this"... like it just went away, and you didnt know why...

Men hide in darkness when their deeds are evil...

Label me paranoid, I dont care... I just want to make sure I get my $1300 bucks worth, and dont end up going into limp mode, and using the OBD scan tool to clear errors all the time of course

We isolated the cause of the problems with Xede and fixed them with the PROcede. And since that took a lot of time and effort, its not in our best interest to disclose this info. I don't know what is so strange about that. Nor do I know how anyone can fault us for keeping this info to ourself. I think we've disclosed more information about 335i tuning than any other tuner on this forum. I don't think its unfair to not give up all our secrets, no? Everyone wants to make sure they spend their money wisely. And we're doing everything we can to show what our product does in the field, in actual customer cars.

-shiv

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by praecurvo

I am curious as to the mod-adaptation of the ProCede. Per-se, adding an exhaust to the already ProCeeded 335, would the ProCede adapt to the mod? If you could help me out with this one Shiv.

The PROcede doesn't do any adaptation itself. All the adaptation is done in the factory ECU. And it does a pretty darn good job of it. However, it does have its limits and it always helps to use a PROcede map that best suits the level of modifications. That said, we do map cars with exhaust systems a little bit differently than totally stock cars. Usually, we can tune a car with an free flow exhaust a bit more aggressively because it is not get choked up with as much knock-inducing exhaust backpressure.

-shiv

[DrM]

Originally Posted by WilyB

I checked on the Europeans BMW web sites, and the 335D is ONLY available with the 6-sp autobox.

Do you have credible source about a 335D manual?

WilyB, according to the BMW literature the 335D is only available with the auto. The 330d is available with the 6-sp manual, but not the 335d.

With that much torque from the 335d you could do some damage to a drive train with a manual if you were reckless. Maybe BMW didn't want to take the risk.

[MITE46]

Hi Shiv, hope everything is well...I haven't had any problems with the xede...maybe it's too warm in socal =p Anyway, does proxede have better performance? I might be going up north in a week or so that's why i ask =)

[edgarj]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The PROcede doesn't do any adaptation itself. All the adaptation is done in the factory ECU. And it does a pretty darn good job of it. However, it does have its limits and it always helps to use a PROcede map that best suits the level of modifications. That said, we do map cars with exhaust systems a little bit differently than totally stock cars. Usually, we can tune a car with an free flow exhaust a bit more aggressively because it is not get choked up with as much knock-inducing exhaust backpressure.

-shiv

Shiv-

So I expect to have my preordered Procede way before the Vishnu catback is shipping (wink, wink), and I was wondering if the "stage 1" map is a free upgrade with the future exhaust? Also, will the the more agressive map produce the same gain using another aftermarket catback exhaust?

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by Ninjaneer

This morning it was 34 degrees!!! I never thought I'd get the frost warning in FL

34 degree? Until today I hadn't seen 34 degrees in about 6 weeks......wow, its really warm by you.

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We isolated the cause of the problems with Xede and fixed them with the PROcede. And since that took a lot of time and effort, its not in our best interest to disclose this info. I don't know what is so strange about that. Nor do I know how anyone can fault us for keeping this info to ourself. I think we've disclosed more information about 335i tuning than any other tuner on this forum. I don't think its unfair to not give up all our secrets, no? Everyone wants to make sure they spend their money wisely. And we're doing everything we can to show what our product does in the field, in actual customer cars.

-shiv

Nicely said. As long as it works, and my driving experience is improved and my baby doesn't blow up, I AM HAPPY . I think everyone, despite our LOVE and NEED for better performance (despite the already sick OEM specs on our cars) don't want to see a 50k car screwed up, that is all.

[Ninjaneer]

Originally Posted by mesier1111

34 degree? Until today I hadn't seen 34 degrees in about 6 weeks......wow, its really warm by you.

hehe we're very spoiled down here