19's front and 20's rear?

discoboy1 · 02-18-2007, 07:01 PM

Anybody have thought about a setup like this?

Chesmu · 02-18-2007, 07:11 PM

may look good, but handling would be crappy.

bzabodyn · 02-19-2007, 11:47 PM

differences in rubber thickness will look ridiculous - only works on cars where the height (not just the width) is staggered also...

BZ

HRC · 02-20-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bzabodyn

differences in rubber thickness will look ridiculous - only works on cars where the height (not just the width) is staggered also...

BZ

+1, it would be like FWD cars running a staggered setup, LMAO!!

Danny

noidea · 02-20-2007, 01:07 AM

Are they legal like this ? In Australia that set-up is illegal.

NaTuReB0Y · 02-20-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HRC

+1, it would be like FWD cars running a staggered setup, LMAO!!

Danny

i've seen a TL with staggered setup......HOT!

E90PWR · 02-20-2007, 01:14 AM

I will show you guys some 19" fronts and 20" rear setup soon.

HRC · 02-20-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

i've seen a TL with staggered setup......HOT!

Danny

ALPINE6SPD · 02-22-2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

i've seen a TL with staggered setup......HOT!

pics?

Couch · 02-22-2007, 08:34 PM

Definitely not something you would see on a bimmer. Vette's have 18's front 19's rear.

When done RIGHT it can look good. I'm not sure how it would look on a e92, but if it was kept to a minimum it may look good.

This is real popular in the sport truck scene. A lot of guys use to run 18s front/20's rear. Now guys are rollin' 20's front/22s rear and even 22's up front and 24's in the rear. This way they minimize the cutting in the fender-wells and moving components around. The rear is just a simple cut of the bed and you're tuckin' 24's.

funky_chilli · 02-22-2007, 08:36 PM

can someone explain to me why it's a no-no to put staggered rims on a FWD car? sorry i just don't know why - i thought it was just a good look - does it actually serve a purpose?
coz i've seen cars like TT's with staggered wheels and they look good but then it's a FWD? or could be a AWD maybe

mbdurham · 02-22-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by funky_chilli

can someone explain to me why it's a no-no to put staggered rims on a FWD car? sorry i just don't know why - i thought it was just a good look - does it actually serve a purpose?
coz i've seen cars like TT's with staggered wheels and they look good but then it's a FWD? or could be a AWD maybe

Front wheel drive cars tend to understeer. Wider rear tires will only increase rear traction which componds this problem. You would actually want the fronts wider then the rear on a FWD car to increase drive and steering traction. A few FWD GM cars did this.

I think it is so funny when people do this because it completely defeats the purpose of a staggered setup. I have seen it on a few TL's also and people seem to do it because they think it looks better but IMHO it looks like you have no clue.

funky_chilli · 02-22-2007, 08:59 PM

thanks for the reply

so wider tyres at the rear wouldn't hurt a FWD? just be kinda useless?
would wider tyres in the rear increase understeer?

wider tyres at the front would look funny

esp with lip

Chesmu · 02-22-2007, 09:21 PM

oversteer = when braking, rear end lifts up from normal laws of physics,this causes the back end to break out, and you end up "turning" more than you intended --> oversteer.

understeer = the wider tires in back would give you more traction and because the are not the "power" tires in a FWD car, the car would turn less than you want it to --> understeer.

The reason for the staggered stup in our cars is twofold:
1) more rubber in the back means more power to the road
2) to minimiaze the oversteer associated with hard-cornering ("spirited driving")

an effective staggered setup for a FWD car would be wider tires in the front.

mbdurham · 02-22-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by funky_chilli

thanks for the reply

so wider tyres at the rear wouldn't hurt a FWD? just be kinda useless?
would wider tyres in the rear increase understeer?

wider tyres at the front would look funny

esp with lip

Yes wider tires in the rear would increase understeer they would not be useless but actually be a hiderance.

Yes as I said before the optimal setup for a front wheel drive would be wider on front. This is usually done with the width increase to the inside so the lip is the same.

montreal_bimmer · 02-22-2007, 11:30 PM

dont think it would look good on a 3 series

funky_chilli · 02-23-2007, 12:19 AM

ok thanks for the replies guys

anyway back on topic, i dun think a staggered setup as in larger diameter wheels in the back would look good on a 3 series

ksfrogman · 02-23-2007, 12:43 AM

Yes, new Corvettes have staggered widths and wheel sizes, but unless the front and rear tire diameters are the same, I believe the flat tire sensor will register a flat tire.

NaViT · 02-23-2007, 01:09 AM

this setup would look good if its really dropped

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funky_chilli burp 6 Rep 537 Posts Drives: '13 328i Sport Line Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aussie in Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	can someone explain to me why it's a no-no to put staggered rims on a FWD car? sorry i just don't know why - i thought it was just a good look - does it actually serve a purpose? coz i've seen cars like TT's with staggered wheels and they look good but then it's a FWD? or could be a AWD maybe __________________ wils '13 F30 328i Sport Line Moved on from: '09 E90 323i M-Sport \| '08 MKV GTI \| '02 MINI Cooper \| '99 E46 318i Exec
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funky_chilli burp 6 Rep 537 Posts Drives: '13 328i Sport Line Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aussie in Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	thanks for the reply so wider tyres at the rear wouldn't hurt a FWD? just be kinda useless? would wider tyres in the rear increase understeer? wider tyres at the front would look funny esp with lip __________________ wils '13 F30 328i Sport Line Moved on from: '09 E90 323i M-Sport \| '08 MKV GTI \| '02 MINI Cooper \| '99 E46 318i Exec
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funky_chilli burp 6 Rep 537 Posts Drives: '13 328i Sport Line Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aussie in Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	ok thanks for the replies guys anyway back on topic, i dun think a staggered setup as in larger diameter wheels in the back would look good on a 3 series __________________ wils '13 F30 328i Sport Line Moved on from: '09 E90 323i M-Sport \| '08 MKV GTI \| '02 MINI Cooper \| '99 E46 318i Exec
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