Tire recommendation (for lapping events)?

Nikos335i · 05-14-2010, 03:29 PM

Hi posted this in the tracking, autocrossing section but got no response. I figured I might get a better response since there is more traffic here anyhow.

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Planning on attending a few lapping events 4 or 5 this summer and wanted to get a dedicated track tire, don't want a R compound tire just something that will give me better grip compared to a high performance street tire.

The 2 contenders are: Dunlop Direzza Star Spec or the Kuhmo KU36 in the 245-45-17 size (on my stock rims square setup). Very similar in price, local track organizer gave the nod to the Kuhmo tire.

Any insight would be appreciated, thanks!

VMRWheels · 05-14-2010, 04:48 PM

The Dunlop Z1SS and Kumho XS have gone under a back to back test in which the Z1SS came out as a more consistent tire for course lapping while the XS was slightly faster in an AutoX course.

Iv personally driven on the Z1SS and they are an extremely grippy tire that is very affordable. I have nothing but great things to say about this tire. Stable and moderately stiff under sweeper like turns and very consistent over 20 minute sessions.

-Charles@VMRWheels

LOLrance · 05-14-2010, 04:52 PM

These are probably the "top contenders" as far as tires go before you go r comps.You really cant go wrong with any from below, just depends on your budget.

Bridgestone RE-11, Nitto NT05,Advan AD08, Dunlop Z1 Star Spec, Kumho XS, Hankook RS3.

Star Specs and NT05's are down right cheap, especially in the 17" size. While RE-11 and AD08's are on the pricier side.

VMRWheels · 05-14-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by l4wr3nc3

These are probably the "top contenders" as far as tires go before you go r comps.You really cant go wrong with any from below, just depends on your budget.

Bridgestone RE-11, Nitto NT05,Advan AD08, Dunlop Z1 Star Spec, Kumho XS, Hankook RS3.

Star Specs and NT05's are down right cheap, especially in the 17" size. While RE-11 and AD08's are on the pricier side.

Ditto! Dont forget to add the Toyo R1R also! Currently running this tire on my race car and love it...

-Charles@VMRWheels

Nikos335i · 05-14-2010, 06:47 PM

Thanks for the feedback boys!

I believe I will get the Dunlops as these tires will only be driven for HPDE and lapping events therefore will be driven on possibly 4 or 5 times only, running 19's for summer wheels. If these were everyday tires I would have opted for the RE11's most likely.

Thanks again!

Gary@TireRack · 05-17-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikos335i

Thanks for the feedback boys!

I believe I will get the Dunlops as these tires will only be driven for HPDE and lapping events therefore will be driven on possibly 4 or 5 times only, running 19's for summer wheels. If these were everyday tires I would have opted for the RE11's most likely.

Thanks again!

That makes good sense to me.

PhiDeltBeers · 05-17-2010, 11:10 AM

I get my new wheels with the Dunlops on Wednesday! Can't wait. I'll be using them for everyday driving as well.

GAaaAR · 05-17-2010, 11:33 AM

How many miles do these tires typically last?

PhiDeltBeers · 05-17-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GAaaAR

How many miles do these tires typically last?

Depends on a lot of varibles, I would assume. I'm guessing 10k-12k easily for me, but I don't track.

VMRWheels · 05-17-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GAaaAR

How many miles do these tires typically last?

This really depends on your vehicles alignment and your driving style. These tires can last anywhere from 2-3 track days to 20-25k miles depending on what you'll be doing. I myself have got about 30k miles from a 200 tread wear tire.

-Charles@VMRWheels

topcat87 · 05-17-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

This really depends on your vehicles alignment and your driving style. These tires can last anywhere from 2-3 track days to 20-25k miles depending on what you'll be doing. I myself have got about 30k miles from a 200 tread wear tire.

-Charles@VMRWheels

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Nikos335i · 05-17-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

This really depends on your vehicles alignment and your driving style. These tires can last anywhere from 2-3 track days to 20-25k miles depending on what you'll be doing. I myself have got about 30k miles from a 200 tread wear tire.

-Charles@VMRWheels

Ok I hope they last at least for the summer events that I have planned for!!!

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