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      06-23-2010, 11:39 PM   #1
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Estimate WHP?

Have catless dp, bmw cai, full exhaust, jb3 (2.0) map 3, 93oct. I was wondering what kind of whp I'm roughly getting? I havent had any CEL light or limp modes in map 3 for 1500 miles so debating if this setting is safer to run as I used to get more limp modes under Map 5..... Any thoughts or experiences with your car? Thx
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rough estimate would be anywhere between 260whp to 550whp depending on your dyno...
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On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.
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i think those numbers are very generous considering no intercooler and no downpipes even with downpipes and an intercooler 380 whp on map 5 is not likely
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i think those numbers are very generous considering no intercooler and no downpipes even with downpipes and an intercooler 380 whp on map 5 is not likely
ya i guess under perfect conditions these numbers seem to be right but thats why i give some leeway so anywhere from 360-380 seems about right.
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Whats a BMW CAI?
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Figured the CAI part, question is, is BMW making an aftermarket CAI now
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BMW CAI?

That must add 100 hp
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If it helps any. Drivetrain loss on our RWD cars is around 15-17 percent. The AWD version might be upwards of 20-22 percent
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On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.
Map 8? can you even run that without race gas?
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On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.
380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me
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380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me
Just a little
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315 REAL whp is my bet.
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oops my bad...i meant to say BMW Intake and also I have AMS Intercooler as well. I am figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of 340-350whp. I will try to get it dyno the difference between map 3 and 5 as the car seems to be running limp modeless in map 3 for now... hahahah
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380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me
Not really look at shiv's and terry's bone stock 3's and 1's dyno's. Their putting about 350-360 whp just with a tune and an intake and from my personal experience i put down 367 on map 7 intake and a muffler delete in 98 degree florida heat.however after 3 pulls it went down to 355 due to no FMIC i would guess.
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oops my bad...i meant to say BMW Intake and also I have AMS Intercooler as well. I am figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of 340-350whp. I will try to get it dyno the difference between map 3 and 5 as the car seems to be running limp modeless in map 3 for now... hahahah
You should run map 5 min with your mods. Get a nice intake a go map 7.
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Who's "REAL whp" are we using -- mine, yours, his, their's or somebody else's ?
i mean Mustang type dyno hps. Dynojet add 15 % .
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For REAL HP numbers you need to use an accurate engine dyno run by a competent dyno technician to SAE test standards. Trying to compare bogus chassis dyno data is a waste of time. That's why I asked who's REAL HP we were using. I still think my 14,000 HP estimate is more accurate than a chassis dyno.
Agreed. Chassis dynos are just tools to measure % increase/gains. Without a baseline, chassis dynos are useless. I am sure you can find a DynoJet (or tweak one) that will read out 350whp on a stock 335i......
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Not really look at shiv's and terry's bone stock 3's and 1's dyno's. Their putting about 350-360 whp just with a tune and an intake and from my personal experience i put down 367 on map 7 intake and a muffler delete in 98 degree florida heat.however after 3 pulls it went down to 355 due to no FMIC i would guess.
mhmm so what u are saying is DPs, FMIC, meth and race gas adds over 80 WHP after the chip? Very hard to believe my friend
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