335is Tuning

OpenFlash · 06-17-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

So basically, if you plan on going with Procede... then save yourself the extra money and get the 335i....

too bad you're unable to take advantage of the overboost: 7 seconds of 40 PSI wtf

There are some other hardware upgrades to the 335is (bigger brakes being one) so there are advantages to it. Not sure if it's worth the price premium of course. But yeah, spending a premium for a mildly tuned 335 isn't a good investment if you plan on adding a powerful tune like the Procede.

kirby135i · 06-17-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

There are some other hardware upgrades to the 335is (bigger brakes being one) so there are advantages to it. Not sure if it's worth the price premium of course. But yeah, spending a premium for a mildly tuned 335 isn't a good investment if you plan on adding a powerful tune like the Procede.

i havent read anywhere that says the 335is has bigger brakes. as far as hardware...i heard beefier flywheel, stiffer engine mounts, perf exhaust and additional radiator.

tom86951 · 06-17-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

There are some other hardware upgrades to the 335is (bigger brakes being one) so there are advantages to it. Not sure if it's worth the price premium of course. But yeah, spending a premium for a mildly tuned 335 isn't a good investment if you plan on adding a powerful tune like the Procede.

Unfortunately, it's the only way to order a new n54 335 now. I trust the N55 Procede is still a ways off....?

tom86951 · 06-17-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

No difference to the standard n54 335. Procede brings both the I and the IS to the same exact level.

So is the bump in power still pretty noticeable when going from IS to Procede?

OpenFlash · 06-17-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tom86951

So is the bump in power still pretty noticeable when going from IS to Procede?

Absolutely. Imagine being in overboost mode all the time, at all engine speeds. Plus another 20-30whp.

Shiv

k726 · 06-17-2010, 11:38 PM

I received my 335is about two weeks ago. Since day 2 Ive had a JB3 in the car and is running fine. Every day the tune is refined and is only getting better. BMS customer support is unreal.

In theory, you can just buy a 335is and plug in your JB3 (or procede). I would much rather have someone like Terry (or Shiv) study your baseline and okay it before cranking up the maps and running the car around town. My 2 cents.

-Adrian

AltecBX · 06-18-2010, 10:30 AM

So are people just getting an addtional 30hp with a 335is tuned Procede compared to a 335i tuned Procede?

kirby135i · 06-18-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

So are people just getting an addtional 30hp with a 335is tuned Procede compared to a 335i tuned Procede?

no, should be getting same hp as 335i...jb3/procede makes the 335is and 335i do the same thing.

BallsBrawn · 06-18-2010, 12:21 PM

Will the 335i catless downpipes fit the 335is?

Jason4486 · 06-18-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BallsBrawn

Will the 335i catless downpipes fit the 335is?

Are you serious?!? Why would you even think of putting catless down pipes on a 335is? This car was built for people who want a tuned car from the factory. If you dont like the way it comes, then I suggest just getting a 335i and saving your money.

BallsBrawn · 06-18-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4486

Are you serious?!? Why would you even think of putting catless down pipes on a 335is? This car was built for people who want a tuned car from the factory. If you dont like the way it comes, then I suggest just getting a 335i and saving your money.

Yes I am serious

kirby135i · 06-18-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4486

Are you serious?!? Why would you even think of putting catless down pipes on a 335is? This car was built for people who want a tuned car from the factory. If you dont like the way it comes, then I suggest just getting a 335i and saving your money.

thats not the only reason someone would order a 335is...for one its the only way to get a new N54 335 engine. im pretty sure the full exhaust is the same and dps will fit.

dmurray14 · 06-18-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4486

Are you serious?!? Why would you even think of putting catless down pipes on a 335is? This car was built for people who want a tuned car from the factory. If you dont like the way it comes, then I suggest just getting a 335i and saving your money.

Umm.....what?

Willizm · 06-18-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kirby135i

no, should be getting same hp as 335i...jb3/procede makes the 335is and 335i do the same thing.

I could see a little bump for the 335is over the 335i seeing how the is comes with a better exhaust as eluded to earlier in this thread.

kirby135i · 06-18-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Willizm

I could see a little bump for the 335is over the 335i seeing how the is comes with a better exhaust as eluded to earlier in this thread.

perhaps a few hp...but its only an axleback...most of the hp gains in the exhaust are at the downpipes then the midpipes.

Jason4486 · 06-18-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BallsBrawn

Yes I am serious

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Originally Posted by kirby135i

thats not the only reason someone would order a 335is...for one its the only way to get a new N54 335 engine. im pretty sure the full exhaust is the same and dps will fit.

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Originally Posted by dmurray14

Umm.....what?

I am sorry but i just dont see the point. Shiv just confirmed that the Procede V4 will take both the 335is and 335i to the same power level regardless of the additions on the IS. What is the point of spending 60k to have a car that is no more powerful than a pre-LCI 335i with the same mod? If you must have an e92 LCI right now and are not willing to wait for tuning developments for the n55, this is your only option I guess but I would be patient and wait. I guess some people have different priorities.

TotalPower · 06-18-2010, 04:18 PM

the point is it also comes with rims, the bmw performance power kit, DCT, and higher monthly payments

dmurray14 · 06-18-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4486

I am sorry but i just dont see the point. Shiv just confirmed that the Procede V4 will take both the 335is and 335i to the same power level regardless of the additions on the IS. What is the point of spending 60k to have a car that is no more powerful than a pre-LCI 335i with the same mod? If you must have an e92 LCI right now and are not willing to wait for tuning developments for the n55, this is your only option I guess but I would be patient and wait. I guess some people have different priorities.

Because you want a new car with an n54? Because you like how it looks? I don't know, people will buy it cause they want it.

What's the point of questioning a question on a public forum?

Willizm · 06-18-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalPower

the point is it also comes with rims, the bmw performance power kit, DCT, and higher monthly payments

The DCT is worth it alone, but not sure if you can get that on a non 'is'. I myself would stick with the non 'is' n54, but alot of people on these boards don't want to tune their cars. They may want to keep it for the long hull. I'm getting rid of mine in a couple years so don't really care for longevity so thats why I'd get the non 'is' and tune it, but people have different ideas of what they want out of the 335.

onesuperboi · 07-21-2010, 10:10 PM

Sorry to bring this thread back. I didn't want to start a new one.

I just read that the overboost limit for the 335is is 14.5 to give it 370 lbs of torque. It seems like a lot of boost for such a gain, doesn't it?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

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onesuperboi Major 53 Rep 1,357 Posts Drives: '08 e92 335i COBB 4.01 Stage 1 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA (Alameda) iTrader: (6)	Sorry to bring this thread back. I didn't want to start a new one. I just read that the overboost limit for the 335is is 14.5 to give it 370 lbs of torque. It seems like a lot of boost for such a gain, doesn't it? http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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