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      06-18-2010, 11:07 AM   #1
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Pilot A/S vs DWS

Ok, so I've done a lot of research, scoured the forums, spent too much time on TireRack, and I am still torn between these two tires.

I live in TN, so snow traction is not a top priority, but my job requires me to be available for travel whenever needed, to anywhere in the southeast, so I need the capability. From what I've read, the Pilot has the better dry traction/steering response, while the DWS is excellent in the wet and snow (for an A/S).

Anyone have any input on these tires? I keep wavering back and forth, the wet capabilities of the DWS vs the better dry performance of the Pilots. Also, with the current rebate, there is only a $100 difference between the two (total for 4 tires), so the price difference is a wash to me.
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      06-18-2010, 09:35 PM   #2
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I would agree that the A/S+ (an improvement over the old A/S) has the better dry grip, cornering/handling and faster steering response. I would call the two equal in wet grip, but the Conti is better in the snow.

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I would agree that the A/S+ (an improvement over the old A/S) has the better dry grip, cornering/handling and faster steering response. I would call the two equal in wet grip, but the Conti is better in the snow.

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I recently swapped my BS RE050 runflats for the A/S+. While I might be subconsciously guilty of trying to justify their cost, I think they are considerably better than the runflats. I'm sure the DWS is a great tire, and the A/S+ might not be a better value relative to the DWS, but I still do not regret the move from the runflats to the A/S+.
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I would agree that the A/S+ (an improvement over the old A/S) has the better dry grip, cornering/handling and faster steering response. I would call the two equal in wet grip, but the Conti is better in the snow.

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Would you say that the DWS is capable enough to handle occasional light snow with just rear wheel drive? (I have a 4wd daily driver that I'll use if I KNOW it's going to snow, but there are surprise snow showers to worry about.)

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Gary -
Would you say that the DWS is capable enough to handle occasional light snow with just rear wheel drive? (I have a 4wd daily driver that I'll use if I KNOW it's going to snow, but there are surprise snow showers to worry about.)

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Either tire is capable of light snow traction.
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Would you say that the DWS is capable enough to handle occasional light snow with just rear wheel drive? (I have a 4wd daily driver that I'll use if I KNOW it's going to snow, but there are surprise snow showers to worry about.)

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I was ok with my Pilot Sport A/S+ when I got caught in that huge blizzard in the DC metro area last winter. I got to my destination when the snow was ~7 inches deep, and the tires were still gripping ok. They're no snow tires, but they work better than summer tires in snow, thats for sure.
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I was ok with my Pilot Sport A/S+ when I got caught in that huge blizzard in the DC metro area last winter. I got to my destination when the snow was ~7 inches deep, and the tires were still gripping ok. They're no snow tires, but they work better than summer tires in snow, thats for sure.
Same experience with my 20025 MB last year. Had procrastinated putting my dedicated snow tires/wheels (Pilot Alpins), and got caught by the first DC storm. With the manual transmission, I only got stuck once in very deep snow. The A/S+ performance was impressive enough that I did not mount the Michelin PA2's for the rest of the season.
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This is the thread I was looking for I am purchasing new tires this week to go on aftermarket 19" rims. A local shop was pushing me towards the Michelin Pilot Sport Plus A/S.

I live in Atlanta and snow is not a major concern. However, I want an all weather tire that will last longer than a ultra high performance tire as this is my daily driver. I was originally considering the Bridgestone Potenza REO50A or the Toyo T1R.

Is there anything that might be recommended that would lean more towards performance with the ability to be an A/S or is the Michelin my best bet?

Thanks for the input.
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This is the thread I was looking for I am purchasing new tires this week to go on aftermarket 19" rims. A local shop was pushing me towards the Michelin Pilot Sport Plus A/S.

I live in Atlanta and snow is not a major concern. However, I want an all weather tire that will last longer than a ultra high performance tire as this is my daily driver. I was originally considering the Bridgestone Potenza REO50A or the Toyo T1R.

Is there anything that might be recommended that would lean more towards performance with the ability to be an A/S or is the Michelin my best bet?

Thanks for the input.
I think you'll be very pleased with the Michelin A/S tires. I've got about 10K miles on mine now, and as far as I can tell, they perform just about as well as the Pilot Sport's I used to run on my E36 M3, and way better than the Bridgestone runflats. I expect to get 30-40K out of these based on the wear to date, which is well over twice what the runflats lasted.

And I no longer have to turn around and go home at the hint of a little snow or frost.
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I think you'll be very pleased with the Michelin A/S tires. I've got about 10K miles on mine now, and as far as I can tell, they perform just about as well as the Pilot Sport's I used to run on my E36 M3, and way better than the Bridgestone runflats. I expect to get 30-40K out of these based on the wear to date, which is well over twice what the runflats lasted.

And I no longer have to turn around and go home at the hint of a little snow or frost.
I am going to give them a try, thanks for the info chromisdesigns.

Is anyone running a 275/30/19 (37 offset) rear with this tire? I know the 265 will work fine, just can't find any info on the 275
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