Interior Cleaning. Cockpit premium vs. 303 Aerospace. Use both?

bavarianboar · 03-21-2011, 12:30 AM

New to Detailing, though learning fast.
I am a bit confused as I don't have any interior cleaning products for my relatively new E90. (5 months old)
Dashboard, Steering, Shift Knob, Wood trim (would be nice if it works here too), interior door handles, other such areas.

Interior is Oyster Black, so enough of black area to take care of.

I am thinking of buying:

1. Einzett 1z Cockpit Premium AND (getting this for sure to cleanup)
2. 303 Aerospace protectant. (confused about this)

Are both required/recommended?

Would I be overspending for no reason by getting 303 Aerospace in addition to Cockpit Premium?
I live in Southern California which is quite sunny except for the rainy days (which have been way too many this year).

Thanks a lot guys! Waiting to order in a day or so. Hopefully I get your advice well in time

Focus · 03-21-2011, 12:50 AM

IMO both are not required. I've been using cockpit exclusively for a year and love it to death.

dday · 03-21-2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus

IMO both are not required. I've been using cockpit exclusively for a year and love it to death.

Same here, use cockpit only and love it.

MuttGrunt · 03-21-2011, 12:28 PM

If you're looking into these to be used on a BMW, I'd recommend just going with the 1Z for now. You'll love it.

dday · 03-21-2011, 12:35 PM

As another quick aside, if you have to clean your leather as much as I do (jean transfer) I've found the Sonax leather foam works really well as a quick cleanup. I do more thorough cleanings with leather masters ever 6 weeks but for quick one step the Sonax is really good.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/sonax-leather-foam.aspx

fisherbln · 03-21-2011, 01:37 PM

You only need one and both are great. 1Z is perfectly matte while 303 is a bit more glossy (sort of semi-gloss). Take your pick based on what you like.

san6279 · 03-21-2011, 02:03 PM

I've used 1Z for 4+ years and absolutely love the finish and smell.

dday · 03-21-2011, 02:06 PM

A quick tip on using 1Z Cockpit, I recommend spraying on a MF towel and wiping the surface rather than spraying on the surface and then wiping.

Joonsup · 03-21-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dday

A quick tip on using 1Z Cockpit, I recommend spraying on a MF towel and wiping the surface rather than spraying on the surface and then wiping.

i recommend the same method for the 303 or else you'll have to use some elbow grease to get off the inside windshield if spraying on dash

san6279 · 03-21-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick@DetailAddict

Quote:

Originally Posted by dday

A quick tip on using 1Z Cockpit, I recommend spraying on a MF towel and wiping the surface rather than spraying on the surface and then wiping.

i recommend the same method for the 303 or else you'll have to use some elbow grease to get off the inside windshield if spraying on dash

Yep, definitely spray on towel and then wipe.

Bobble · 03-21-2011, 06:54 PM

Yes which ever product you use spray into the towel first and then wipe easier to control the finish that way.

Focus · 03-21-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by san6279

I've used 1Z for 4+ years and absolutely love the finish and smell.

it smells sooooo good. I feel like it freshens up the interior really well !

bavarianboar · 03-21-2011, 11:11 PM

Thanks a lot guys!

Will save some bucks and just get 1Z for now. I can always order more later.

Appreciate all the comments, and advise.

For leather I am getting PB World Leather Stuff. I do get some Jeans dye on the seats though it comes off with warm moist microfiber cloth. PB stuff should be cool from what I have read in some other threads.

Its a lease vehicle, so I am not super inclined to spend a tonne of money for detailing every single thing, though I keep up with maintenance to a very good standard. The car needs to look wonderful while I have it

TiAg335i · 03-21-2011, 11:49 PM

From my own experience...

Leathermasters is a fantastic product...definitely give it a look. Make sure you get the package that comes with the Strong Cleaner, Vital and Protection Creme. You can really tell after applying it that the leather is healthier - it's noticeably softer and richer in color (not glossy at all).

303 is also a fantastic product. I would recommend spraying it liberally on a soft MF and buffing it. I applied this stuff when all over the car when I first got it, and notice no fading at all to this day (4 years later). The finish is also perfectly matte.

Haven't tried 1Z, but I'm sure it's just as good. You won't need both - just get one or the other. The 303 isn't really for cleaning, it's just a sunscreen and protectant.

TwinPowerF30 · 03-22-2011, 01:22 AM

If you like the factory look of the dash as it is right now, then don't add any (gloss) dressings to it. Just 1z cockpit will suffice.

ScheerSpeed · 03-22-2011, 08:13 AM

For 1Z cockpit, get yourself a Swissvax Pneu brush and spray cockpit on the surface and use the Brush to spread it evenly and really work it in, then wipe off with a MF towel.

I used to use 303 on the interior, but over time I found the finish it leaves is too glossy and attracts too much dirt. Now I normally use 303 on engine bays and wheel wells.

Usually I'll clean an interior with either cockpit of 1Z blitz if it's really gross and follow that up with Swissvax Protecton Matt.

As far as leather, look no farther than the Leather Masters products. I use Chemical Guy's leather cleaner (great bang for buck) followed up with Leather Masters Vital and Protection Cream. This leaves the leather looking like it just rolled off the assembly line and it really softens it well. Swissvax Leather Milk is also a good option.

03-21-2011, 12:30 AM	#1
bavarianboar Lieutenant Colonel 546 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: 2020 540i, 2020 430i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Interior Cleaning. Cockpit premium vs. 303 Aerospace. Use both? New to Detailing, though learning fast. I am a bit confused as I don't have any interior cleaning products for my relatively new E90. (5 months old) Dashboard, Steering, Shift Knob, Wood trim (would be nice if it works here too), interior door handles, other such areas. Interior is Oyster Black, so enough of black area to take care of. I am thinking of buying: 1. Einzett 1z Cockpit Premium AND (getting this for sure to cleanup) 2. 303 Aerospace protectant. (confused about this) Are both required/recommended? Would I be overspending for no reason by getting 303 Aerospace in addition to Cockpit Premium? I live in Southern California which is quite sunny except for the rainy days (which have been way too many this year). Thanks a lot guys! Waiting to order in a day or so. Hopefully I get your advice well in time __________________ Driving: 2020 540i M-Sport Carbon Black, Ivory Nappa - Dec 2019 BTO - Feb 2020 Delivery Returned: 2016 535i M-Sport Carbon Black, Ivory Nappa :: 2014 F30 335i M-Sport Min Grey, Coral Red :: 2011 E90 328i Deep Sea Blue, Oyster Dakota Last edited by bavarianboar; 03-21-2011 at 12:40 AM.. Reason: intro
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

03-21-2011, 12:50 AM	#2
Focus Captain 70 Rep 942 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Jersey iTrader: (2)	IMO both are not required. I've been using cockpit exclusively for a year and love it to death. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 12:28 PM	#4
MuttGrunt Banned 27 Rep 872 Posts Drives: beater;) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SE Michigan iTrader: (0)	If you're looking into these to be used on a BMW, I'd recommend just going with the 1Z for now. You'll love it.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 12:35 PM	#5
dday Captain 35 Rep 856 Posts Drives: 2014 Alpine White 335 M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	As another quick aside, if you have to clean your leather as much as I do (jean transfer) I've found the Sonax leather foam works really well as a quick cleanup. I do more thorough cleanings with leather masters ever 6 weeks but for quick one step the Sonax is really good. http://www.detailersdomain.com/sonax-leather-foam.aspx
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 01:37 PM	#6
fisherbln Captain 12 Rep 859 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	You only need one and both are great. 1Z is perfectly matte while 303 is a bit more glossy (sort of semi-gloss). Take your pick based on what you like. __________________ 2007 335i SG Coupe 2009 128i AW
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 02:03 PM	#7
san6279 First Lieutenant 9 Rep 338 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (2)	I've used 1Z for 4+ years and absolutely love the finish and smell.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 02:06 PM	#8
dday Captain 35 Rep 856 Posts Drives: 2014 Alpine White 335 M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	A quick tip on using 1Z Cockpit, I recommend spraying on a MF towel and wiping the surface rather than spraying on the surface and then wiping.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 06:54 PM	#11
Bobble Major 56 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Whatever POS the wife leaves Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Yes which ever product you use spray into the towel first and then wipe easier to control the finish that way.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 11:11 PM	#13
bavarianboar Lieutenant Colonel 546 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: 2020 540i, 2020 430i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Thanks a lot guys! Will save some bucks and just get 1Z for now. I can always order more later. Appreciate all the comments, and advise. For leather I am getting PB World Leather Stuff. I do get some Jeans dye on the seats though it comes off with warm moist microfiber cloth. PB stuff should be cool from what I have read in some other threads. Its a lease vehicle, so I am not super inclined to spend a tonne of money for detailing every single thing, though I keep up with maintenance to a very good standard. The car needs to look wonderful while I have it __________________ Driving: 2020 540i M-Sport Carbon Black, Ivory Nappa - Dec 2019 BTO - Feb 2020 Delivery Returned: 2016 535i M-Sport Carbon Black, Ivory Nappa :: 2014 F30 335i M-Sport Min Grey, Coral Red :: 2011 E90 328i Deep Sea Blue, Oyster Dakota
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-21-2011, 11:49 PM	#14
TiAg335i Trance Life 345 Rep 4,706 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (4)	From my own experience... Leathermasters is a fantastic product...definitely give it a look. Make sure you get the package that comes with the Strong Cleaner, Vital and Protection Creme. You can really tell after applying it that the leather is healthier - it's noticeably softer and richer in color (not glossy at all). 303 is also a fantastic product. I would recommend spraying it liberally on a soft MF and buffing it. I applied this stuff when all over the car when I first got it, and notice no fading at all to this day (4 years later). The finish is also perfectly matte. Haven't tried 1Z, but I'm sure it's just as good. You won't need both - just get one or the other. The 303 isn't really for cleaning, it's just a sunscreen and protectant. __________________ Vanguard V2 Exhaust//Vishnu DCI//ACM Angel Eyes
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-22-2011, 01:22 AM	#15
TwinPowerF30 Captain 39 Rep 643 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	If you like the factory look of the dash as it is right now, then don't add any (gloss) dressings to it. Just 1z cockpit will suffice.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-22-2011, 08:13 AM	#16
ScheerSpeed Major General 447 Rep 5,766 Posts Drives: '13 F30 Estoril M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (14)	For 1Z cockpit, get yourself a Swissvax Pneu brush and spray cockpit on the surface and use the Brush to spread it evenly and really work it in, then wipe off with a MF towel. I used to use 303 on the interior, but over time I found the finish it leaves is too glossy and attracts too much dirt. Now I normally use 303 on engine bays and wheel wells. Usually I'll clean an interior with either cockpit of 1Z blitz if it's really gross and follow that up with Swissvax Protecton Matt. As far as leather, look no farther than the Leather Masters products. I use Chemical Guy's leather cleaner (great bang for buck) followed up with Leather Masters Vital and Protection Cream. This leaves the leather looking like it just rolled off the assembly line and it really softens it well. Swissvax Leather Milk is also a good option.
	Appreciate 0 Quote