[karkid]

I did a quick search before making this thread and it seems this is the case just want to confirm, I have a 09 CPO'd 335i and was looking into changing the angel eye's bulbs but it looks like theres a warranty void sticker?

but what if one of the bulbs blows then what?

[chucktang]

If you change your angel eyes with aftermarket bulbs, BMW will not give you new bulbs for free under warranty if the bulbs blow... or am I misinterpreting the question?

[Legion5]

So let me get this right.

#1. You are curious if replacing the light bulbs in your angel eyes will void the warranty on your car.
#2. You did a quick search and you found that replacing your angel eye bulbs voids your warranty.
#3. You think there is a security sticker on the service cover of the headlights.
#4. You're wondering what will happen if your angel eye bulb blows.

All your worries are silly to be honest.

1. To void your warranty your dealer has to basically submit a request to BMWNA to mark it that way. The only reason this even exists is for example if your car is totaled in an accident and 80% of the vehicle is replaced and it's to the point where the car is essentially not built by BMW and for other similar things. The purpose of voiding a warranty is for very serious stuff. In certain rare cases there have been reports of utterly retarded dealers full of the stupidest people on earth submitting warranty void requests to BMWNA for the drive train for things like intakes. I haven't heard of BMWNA approving of any poorly thought out ridiculous requests to void someone's warranty but I have heard of service departments trying to do it and failing. These sorts of mishaps have scared a few people due to a few bad apple service guys.


Voiding your warranty for installing a light bulb on a fully fused electrical system would be the most retarded thing a human would have ever done in history. That's like BMW voiding your warranty for installing non-OEM tires. I'm probably the only person on this entire forum who has damaged their car with Angel Eye bulbs and that's partly because I've messed with them a lot. I've actually installed every major Angel Eye bulb on the market on my car and tried a bunch of custom solutions, I accidentally shorted the electrical system when I rewired it and due to a weird flaw the fuse didn't blow correctly from the overload which ended up damaging the electrical system and part of the drivtrain electronics. Do you know what the dealer did on my CPO car? They replaced over $2000 of drive train equipment because the fuse due to a 1:1,000,000 flaw didn't function correctly and blow. To be clear what happened to me would probably never happen to anyone else ever, but even if your bulbs do damage your car electrically, which is less likely than lighting striking you 3 times in 1 day your dealer will cover it because the bulbs should never damage anything electrically. The worst thing that could happen that you'd be liable for is physical damage to your headlight from things like electrical smoke or heat melting it, which is very unlikely and doesn't affect the rest of your warranty.

2. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that angel eye bulbs will void your warranty by searching but that's ridiculous and totally off base.

3. There is no security sticker on the service panel of the headlights. The OEM angel eye bulbs are halogen and need to be replaced every few years. That's like putting a security sticker on your gas filler cap, it's crazy.

4. Depending on what angel eyes you get, in most cases it's impossible that they would blow. For LED angel eyes it is literally physically impossible for them to blow (shorting is another story but for the bulb itself to blow, no). The only bulbs that can blow are Halogen and HID ones. The white halogen replacement bulbs are the same as stock with a coating, they aren't any more likely to blow than those. The HID bulbs are very well built and I've actually coated mine with about 8 different types of surface coating, set them on fire (flammable coating) dropped them a few times, and encased them in plaster and they're fine, so they are very unlikely to blow.


So to make a long story short it would be ridiculous for you to have any problem with angel eye bulbs regarding your warranty.

I also want to add that like I said I've tried every major angel eye solution on the market and there are only 3 which are even remotely good, I would only recommend Angel iBright 3.0, Lux v3, and Alpine HID Angel Eye bulb solutions (Camaross also makes an equally effective HID solution with the same bulb as Apline but with a different harness). All the others will disappoint. You need a light that's as bright as a headlight and some of these Angel Eye bulbs spend $60 on parts for the LED's alone not to mention the machined casing and power supply, so it's really advanced and hard to match stuff, so the lower quality solutions won't cut it.

Hope that explains everything.

[WWONG]

Security sticker? Our cars are not cell phones.

[LuxAngelEyes]

There are security stickers on the E90 LCI Headlights - but there are not any on the e92's

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by Legion5

So let me get this right.

#1. You are curious if replacing the light bulbs in your angel eyes will void the warranty on your car.
#2. You did a quick search and you found that replacing your angel eye bulbs voids your warranty.
#3. You think there is a security sticker on the service cover of the headlights.
#4. You're wondering what will happen if your angel eye bulb blows.

All your worries are silly to be honest.

1. To void your warranty your dealer has to basically submit a request to BMWNA to mark it that way. The only reason this even exists is for example if your car is totaled in an accident and 80% of the vehicle is replaced and it's to the point where the car is essentially not built by BMW and for other similar things. The purpose of voiding a warranty is for very serious stuff. In certain rare cases there have been reports of utterly retarded dealers full of the stupidest people on earth submitting warranty void requests to BMWNA for the drive train for things like intakes. I haven't heard of BMWNA approving of any poorly thought out ridiculous requests to void someone's warranty but I have heard of service departments trying to do it and failing. These sorts of mishaps have scared a few people due to a few bad apple service guys.


Voiding your warranty for installing a light bulb on a fully fused electrical system would be the most retarded thing a human would have ever done in history. That's like BMW voiding your warranty for installing non-OEM tires. I'm probably the only person on this entire forum who has damaged their car with Angel Eye bulbs and that's partly because I've messed with them a lot. I've actually installed every major Angel Eye bulb on the market on my car and tried a bunch of custom solutions, I accidentally shorted the electrical system when I rewired it and due to a weird flaw the fuse didn't blow correctly from the overload which ended up damaging the electrical system and part of the drivtrain electronics. Do you know what the dealer did on my CPO car? They replaced over $2000 of drive train equipment because the fuse due to a 1:1,000,000 flaw didn't function correctly and blow. To be clear what happened to me would probably never happen to anyone else ever, but even if your bulbs do damage your car electrically, which is less likely than lighting striking you 3 times in 1 day your dealer will cover it because the bulbs should never damage anything electrically. The worst thing that could happen that you'd be liable for is physical damage to your headlight from things like electrical smoke or heat melting it, which is very unlikely and doesn't affect the rest of your warranty.

2. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that angel eye bulbs will void your warranty by searching but that's ridiculous and totally off base.

3. There is no security sticker on the service panel of the headlights. The OEM angel eye bulbs are halogen and need to be replaced every few years. That's like putting a security sticker on your gas filler cap, it's crazy.

4. Depending on what angel eyes you get, in most cases it's impossible that they would blow. For LED angel eyes it is literally physically impossible for them to blow (shorting is another story but for the bulb itself to blow, no). The only bulbs that can blow are Halogen and HID ones. The white halogen replacement bulbs are the same as stock with a coating, they aren't any more likely to blow than those. The HID bulbs are very well built and I've actually coated mine with about 8 different types of surface coating, set them on fire (flammable coating) dropped them a few times, and encased them in plaster and they're fine, so they are very unlikely to blow.


So to make a long story short it would be ridiculous for you to have any problem with angel eye bulbs regarding your warranty.

I also want to add that like I said I've tried every major angel eye solution on the market and there are only 3 which are even remotely good, I would only recommend Angel iBright 3.0, Lux v3, and Alpine HID Angel Eye bulb solutions (Camaross also makes an equally effective HID solution with the same bulb as Apline but with a different harness). All the others will disappoint. You need a light that's as bright as a headlight and some of these Angel Eye bulbs spend $60 on parts for the LED's alone not to mention the machined casing and power supply, so it's really advanced and hard to match stuff, so the lower quality solutions won't cut it.

Hope that explains everything.

Take it easy on the guy. Like the above posted the LCI e90's come with stickers over the cap that you have to open to replace the bulbs. Breaking that seal voids the warranty on the lights only and not the whole vehicle.

[Shazmonkee]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

Take it easy on the guy. Like the above posted the LCI e90's come with stickers over the cap that you have to open to replace the bulbs. Breaking that seal voids the warranty on the lights only and not the whole vehicle.

This is correct. As long as you do installs right, the worst that can happen is a burnt out bulb, which you can replace for cheaper than what the stealership offers

[drummer12]

Originally Posted by LuxAngelEyes

There are security stickers on the E90 LCI Headlights - but there are not any on the e92's

There are no security stickers on my 2011 E90 LCI.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The warranty states that alterations to the "engineered specifications of the vehicle" will void the warranty. This applies to any part of the vehicle be it electrical, powertrain, suspension, etc. The Magnuson Moss does not apply to alteration to the "engineered specifications of the vehicle", so forget about it as you get out of jail free card.

Correct.

Clearly this doesn't void his entire warranty but it can certainly lead to refusal of warranty repairs on lighting units, the electrical system or anything else that might be affected by a failure of the aftermarket bulb.

Most people don't understand the unexpected consequences of a "simple" mod.

Quite simply, the electrical systems on modern cars are so intertwined and complicated that a simple light bulb switch could (note the could - not will) result in the failure of another system. That's one reason that sticker is there on some cars and the reason for the admonishment in the owner's manual.

Can the OP swap it out? Of course, but he needs to accept the possible consequences.