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07-21-2019, 06:54 PM | #199 | |
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09-19-2019, 03:12 PM | #201 | |
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Right now for me; when I pull on the right; it shifts up, and then I push on the right it shifts down. And the reverse for left. I still don't know why I can't shift down while driving, but I can if I'm at stand still in D. Could it be my GM transmission? I doubt, might connect to the other pin and see what happens. Last edited by gamesfrager; 09-29-2019 at 02:23 AM.. |
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10-23-2019, 11:32 AM | #202 |
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Sooo, if the lock harness on the back of the clock spring HAS the 2 yellow wires, what do they go to? I don’t want to remove them and lose something. OR does it mean I’m already pre wired?
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01-11-2020, 12:11 AM | #206 |
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That's generally how it's supposed to work. Paddles should shift in D but automatic will take back control if you're not actively shifting. DS you remain in control (with paddles) but car will downshift automatically as you lose revs (downshift to M2 at stop). Will also not let you damage the tranny by shifting for you if you hit redline.
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03-18-2020, 11:14 AM | #208 |
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Hello.
I wanted to find out what I was doing wrong. so bmw x1 2011 year 2.3xdrive, i bought a ssg steering wheel. I took two wires from the gear selector to the steering wheel, removed the two yellow wires # 2 # 4 out, then connected the in steering wheel # 2 wires together to the ground, # 3 connected together and connected to the exit 6 of the ring. when starting a car nothing happens, the problem is that the D is on the gear selector and M / S light is on, I can't change the speed with the steering wheel, are there any other things I can do? I dont have paddle shiffters buttons with nummber 61319123287 but some other nummbers, with 6 pin. Last edited by Utututu; 03-18-2020 at 11:23 AM.. |
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05-28-2020, 03:31 PM | #209 |
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I have a 2006 330i with a N52B30. Transmission 6 speed auto with EGS Module GKE11P.C02 Wheel I have has the SSG Paddles and came with the the multi function buttons with all 6 wires and behind the slip ring I had the 2 yellow wires. Problem: I cannot down shift manually but it will downshift on its own when hitting a certain RPM. The odd thing is it will not go to M1 on its own unless I use the shifter to manually shift up and down, I can then go into M1. What I have tried: -I have wired everything as the diagram is shown from the slip ring to the transmission connector two times. Second time was using larger gauge wire. - Re wired the paddles ( these have 3 connections. one is up one is down and one is negative. Tried different routes on the paddles and bypassed the multi function directly to the slip ring connector. I know both paddles function properly. - I have added $2XA to the VO for CAS and NFRM with NCSExpert - I have default coded the EGS module to factory settings after adding the VO I understand how the shifting grounds the connection out when in DS mode. and that the paddles essentially are just switches to do the same thing. I can manually shit up and down using the shifter but not the paddles? Anyone have ideas? |
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05-30-2020, 06:27 PM | #210 | |
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06-12-2020, 10:00 AM | #211 |
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Hi. Does anyone know if it would be possible to fit a SSG (Pre-LCI) paddle shifting steering wheel on a LCI 2009 328i? I am not sure if I need to get the LCI shift paddles. The SSG shifters are cheaper and more abundant.
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06-12-2020, 07:12 PM | #212 |
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It shouldn't matter, you could do it. You just have to check the wiring as it has more to do with the connection to the control buttons. In some ways it might be easier.
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07-07-2020, 02:13 PM | #213 |
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i was done making my own pins the same way you did and went and tried to connect them but noticed those extra slots on mine are already takin would you have any idea what else i can possibly do ? my steering wheel is off of a 2008 bmw 335i and my car is a bmw 328i 2009 Any ideas ?? anyone
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07-26-2020, 02:20 PM | #214 |
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My experience, hope this helps someone with the same variation of car and wheel;
Car-2009 335i xDrive-non sport package, premium package, cold weather package. Wheel- M Sport perforated wheel from a 2011 335i M sport. Wheel came with multifunction buttons. Since the wheel came with multifunction buttons it had the 6 pin connector that plugs into the ring behind the airbag so didn’t need to do anything to get the paddles to connect to the ring. The paddles tho had to have the “resistor mod” done to them in order for them to act as right side + and left side -. Now I am not an experienced in soldering whatsoever and the directions from BMS say to use a small piece of wire to “short out” the two connectors on the paddles AFTER removing the 2 resistors on each paddle. I tried it this way at first with flux and it was incredibly difficult. So, instead of using a small piece of wire, I just used a blob of solder to connect the two connections to create the short. This was much easier to do and it has the same effect of a small piece of wire. Lastly, in terms of the rear connector behind the ring hidden by the bottom plastics is the connection you have to make from there to the shifter assembly at the center console. My car had the 2 yellow wires in pin slots 2 and 4 so I removed those, taped up each of them. Next I took 2 pins from another spare plug I had laying around, soldered about a foot and a half of wiring to each one and spliced each of them into the two middle wires of the blue plug at the shifter. Everything is working well, all multifunction buttons work, I can be in just D along with DS and still use the paddles and didn’t have to buy a $100+ plug and play harness. I was planning all along to just buy the BMS paddle retrofit harness but with it being out of stock for some time now I went this route and I’m glad I did. Hope this helps people wondering the same questions about an e90 lci non paddle car that wants to use an lci m sport +/- wheel. |
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Edit - still have to do the wiring modification before the slipping. Not sure how the poster I quoted did it |
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02-15-2021, 01:20 PM | #217 |
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Hey All bringing this back from the dead.... wanted to ask if anyone by chance have photos of the front and back of the LCI paddle circuit boards? so far, i've only located/seen the top part (where the resistors sat) not the back/bottom part... trying to figure out the path the current travels...trying to do a retrofit but not using an e90 steering wheel..
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11-22-2021, 06:24 AM | #218 |
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Just did a paddle retrofit today using multifunction buttons from a DCT 335i.
Turns out these multifunction buttons are different to the usual - they include resistor dividers internally to convert the upshift/downshift signals from the paddles to the paddle-shifter voltage input the DCT expects. I was initially very perplexed when I put everything together, triple-checked my wiring, and the paddles didn't work. Ended up taking the multifunction buttons apart and modifying them to the standard type. Before/after photos below. I just needed to remove a few resistors and add some bridges. I suppose this is also useful for any madmen retrofitting a DCT into their 335i with SSG paddles. |
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12-10-2021, 04:45 PM | #219 |
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You can also retrofit by adding to wires from Junction Box Module to the Transmission Plug behind the fuse box where the cables are.
Then adding $7XA to VO (CAS and NFRM) and default coding EGS. Requirements: - Paddles - the right mutlifunction buttons - the right steering wheel Or you can cut your steering wheel. I made a perfect line up template to cut the steering wheel. If someone need I can send a pm ! |
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05-25-2022, 08:40 PM | #220 |
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Bringing this thread back from the dead in hopes of someone being able to provide me some help and guidance…
Background: I purchased a 2007 (late '06 build) E90 335. The car came from the factory with the sport steering wheel and paddle shifters (option S2XAA). Over the span of the car's existence, one of the car's owners swapped on an M-Performance steering wheel without the LED screen and with paddles, so no additional wiring changes were required. This owner then ended up selling the M-Perf steering wheel and swapped back to a 6MT steering wheel with no paddles, which is how i purchased the car. Fast forward to today: I've purchased a used complete sport steering wheel with SSG paddles and MF buttons - I've also made some modifications to the paddles and installed the Nelson Racing Wheel paddles with the re-wire (left pull downshift/right pull up shift). But no matter what i do, i cannot seem to get the paddles to work. MF buttons all work with no issues, paddles have no function. The car goes into DS and i can manually shift up/down from the shifter with no issues. I don't think it's a coding issue - i don't see why the original owner would bother to remove the coding after swapping on the 6MT steering wheel. PLEASE HELP! I'm losing my mind. The MF button connector has all 6 wires, that's how i purchased it. Would removing the existing connector wires and replacing them like ZapHood mentioned solve my issue? Is it potentially a bad clockspring connector? Is it possible resistors in the MF buttons like mentioned? I really appreciate the help! |
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