[kmarei]

Originally Posted by FenixMike

I think you again missed where I didn't make a decision either way, only fueling facts for the arguments that there will be no way to differentiate a terrorist from an innocent person. Im not for a ban of all people, but I also don't have faith in the government to screen them because I know A ) they aren't capable of it currently, and B ) the political climate of our current administration wants all those people here regardless of safety.

Let's assume we banned all Muslims from entering the U.S.
How do you determine the religion of a refugee applying for entry?
And how do you know the Christian you are allowing in, isn't really a potential terrorist?
If you ban them, you really think the majority of applicants wont hide the fact they are Muslim?

This is not s temporary solution as trump claims
This is permanent

A better solution is to improve the applicant screening process
If you can't verify the person has a clean record, don't allow him in
Irrespective of his religion, race or colour

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by kmarei

I'd like to see that study, could you post a link to it please ?
If 81% of Egyptians were as radical as you claim
They would not have kicked out the Muslim brotherhood, after only one year in power no?
Even if the above statement is true, it has no effect on you
It's not declaring war on the world, as some have claimed
It's about Muslims who leave their religion.
And it's not practiced on most countries except Saudi arabia, which if you do your research, is behind all these dumbass ideas attributed to Islam today
And behind most radical Islamists.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...leaving-islam/

Here are many more disturbing stats:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa...nion-polls.htm


"World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda?s attitude toward the U.S."

I really wish it was the 1%, but that repeatedly doesn't seem to be the case.

[bmw1racer]

Mosque in California firebombed: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2463411

Who are the terrorists now?

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Mosque in California firebombed: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2463411

Who are the terrorists now?

Hate begets Hate....

[P1]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Mosque in California firebombed: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2463411

Who are the terrorists now?

Their names were Tashfeen Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Mosque in California firebombed: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2463411

Who are the terrorists now?

As a large group of individuals bent on ending western civilization, they wear turbans and beards, repress women, pray constantly, and like to kill innocents with machine guns and beheading and suicide bombs. There is the occasional nut job who is frustrated by their government's lack of action and will burn down a place of worship but these nut jobs typically don't kill, just do property damage.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...leaving-islam/

Here are many more disturbing stats:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa...nion-polls.htm


"World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda?s attitude toward the U.S."

I really wish it was the 1%, but that repeatedly doesn't seem to be the case.

+1. Why do all the people who keep saying it's 1% live in the middle east?

[FenixMike]

Originally Posted by kmarei

A better solution is to improve the applicant screening process
If you can't verify the person has a clean record, don't allow him in

How do you verify a record that doesnt exist? Just like not letting the "bad" illegals into this country, its not like we can call Mexico or Syria and say "hey, we got this guy, Fred, here at the border, what do you think of him?"

[V1.47fan]

[///M Power-Belgium]

From the voting (poll) from the moment...
Block the terror ?

47.06% => YES
52.94% => NO

[Templar]

Originally Posted by FenixMike

How do you verify a record that doesnt exist? Just like not letting the "bad" illegals into this country, its not like we can call Mexico or Syria and say "hey, we got this guy, Fred, here at the border, what do you think of him?"

This is what I asked earlier and no one can answer (not even our wonderful leadership).

I'm not necessarily for or against a ban on entry. I just have very little faith in the "background checking" process that our government claims is happening.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Which is not what he said at all.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

I don't think he ever said that all Muslims were a danger to US citizens.

[gonzo]

Not much to say here...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-p...ry?id=35749325

Could families sue The DHS?

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Not much to say here...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-p...ry?id=35749325

Could families sue The DHS?

Sure they could, they'd lose but yes they could sue them.

Wonder if the media coverage will put pressure on them to remove that stupid restriction.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Sure they could, they'd lose but yes they could sue them.

Wonder if the media coverage will put pressure on them to remove that stupid restriction.

Fear of bad public relations outweighs homeland security and basic common sense.


Department of Hand Holding and Feelings.

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Not much to say here...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-p...ry?id=35749325

Could families sue The DHS?

Nice. They're afraid of civil liberty violations while those with certain security clearances have to report their social media activities and in some cases have been told by the government to terminate their social media accounts even when no discussion of their work was ever done on those accounts.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Belgian update...

ABDESLAM-SALAH ESCAPED IN A PIECE OF FURNITURE. BELGIAN GOVERNMENT IS EMBARACED !!!

THIS COULD BE A SCENE FROM A PINK-PANTHER MOVIE ....

Belgium sucks again , like I said before...."MOLENBEEK" !!! => From the newspaper=> http://www.interris.it/en/2015/12/17...embaraced.html

[TrAcK TRaP]

[J3NGOe90]

Trump is dumb ass so some of you guys, first of all ISIS have no religion. And if Trumps idea did work, any ISIS member wouldn't admit he is muslim and get in the country. If Trump becomes president he will bring World War 3 most likely. How can some one even think about shit like this or come up with shit like this. America puts their noise in every country, go where they shouldn't and then cry about consequences. BTW if ISIS decides to bomb the place, they won't separate muslims, jews or christians think with your head people, not ass.

[J3NGOe90]

so yeah now I can go back to my turbo upgrade options

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by J3NGOe90

Trump is dumb ass so some of you guys, first of all ISIS have no religion. And if Trumps idea did work, any ISIS member wouldn't admit he is muslim and get in the country. If Trump becomes president he will bring World War 3 most likely. How can some one even think about shit like this or come up with shit like this. America puts their noise in every country, go where they shouldn't and then cry about consequences. BTW if ISIS decides to bomb the place, they won't separate muslims, jews or christians think with your head people, not ass.

It's so painful attempting to make this into something approximating proper English. But then I see you are from Brooklyn, so I suppose this would be your best effort, so I'll give you a pass.

Where do you see all the Trump supporters? He's an idiot if he actually goes through with what he says, yes, that is already known. The unfortunate part is, so many others are idiots as well, so they will likely vote for him as they'll feel a sense of kinship.