[Jay@ATP]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

i predict a 13.2 - 13.3 run.

i hope to be proven wrong...

Why would you say that??? Thats what a stock one runs.....

[e36jakeo]

I just got a GPS-based data-logger that all the IRL race teams use to collect lap data. It will perfectly record 1/4 mile times.

I am happy to hook up with anyone in the Bay Area to do some runs. Unfortunately Infinion's drag strip is closed until March :mad:

[bnj]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

With my 6mt, on some dry surfaces, traction is somewhat of an issue even in second gear. On other dry surfaces, tires break loose in 1st gear roll-ons right around 4000rpm. Throw water or dirt in the mix and what that traction control light start flashing all through 1st and 2nd and maybe a little bit in 3rd. Sounds exciting until you learn that the throttle isn't an on/off switch. In the end, it just takes getting used to the fact that simply "stomping on it" will yield different results than what you were used to. What you'll find is what race car drivers have been doing since there were race cars... apply the throttle smoothly. You can do it quickly. Just make sure you do it smoothly so you don't upset the chassis or "shock" the tires into wheelspin. Steps look nearly identical on the dyno but the torque convertion does seem to take some of the initial "sting" out of the power delivery on the road.

Cheers,
shiv

Thanks for the info Shiv!

Btv. 335i gear box is the same as in 550i which is rated at 360 ft-lbs & 360 bhp. Similar figures to 335i with Xede. For even further tuning later on (which the programmable Xede nicely allows) it is the traction that breaks, not the tranny. That's good news for the longevity.
Cheers!

[andrew 330i]

Originally Posted by Jay@ATP

Why would you say that??? Thats what a stock one runs.....

~ slips & video will tell the truth. we'll see... someday.

but for now i stick to my prediction of 13.2 - 13.3. and keep in mind... the drivers for the mags are professionals running these times...
not your average driver.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

~ slips & video will tell the truth. we'll see... someday.

but for now i stick to my prediction of 13.2 - 13.3. and keep in mind... the drivers for the mags are professionals running these times...
not your average driver.

Are you forgetting that we've had several anecdotal evidence from "regular" 335i drivers who've said they got 4.8 sec. 0-60mph times? Also, have you forgetten a few of the "other" (non-car mag) tests of the 335i (like BusinessWeek.com and Edmunds.com) that also wrote about their 4.8 sec. 0-60mph times? You should know that typically the guys who write for BusinessWeek.com and even Edmunds.com don't launch the cars by "power-braking" and revving a car to 3,000rpm then drop the clutch (on their car test drives); they're "regular" guys too.

This should provide even more evidence that a stock 335i is as fast as everyone says; then add the Xede on that, and you've just made the car A LOT faster, not just 0.1-0.2 sec. faster in the 1/4 mi. That's just ridiculous!

You're not just pissed that you have a 330i instead of waiting a few extra months for the 335i, right? I'm not saying that this is the case, but your skeptism is a bit much.

[Jay@ATP]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

~ slips & video will tell the truth. we'll see... someday.

but for now i stick to my prediction of 13.2 - 13.3. and keep in mind... the drivers for the mags are professionals running these times...
not your average driver.

Umm.. you should look on dragtimes.com. There is an AUTO 335i that ran a 13.3 stock. Regular guy.

[Jay@ATP]

Originally Posted by e36jakeo

I just got a GPS-based data-logger that all the IRL race teams use to collect lap data. It will perfectly record 1/4 mile times.

I am happy to hook up with anyone in the Bay Area to do some runs. Unfortunately Infinion's drag strip is closed until March :mad:

But SAC is still open every weekend for test and tune. I plan to take my EVO there in a week or two and get into the 12s.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

~ slips & video will tell the truth. we'll see... someday.

but for now i stick to my prediction of 13.2 - 13.3. and keep in mind... the drivers for the mags are professionals running these times...
not your average driver.

Like Jay@ATP said, there's already slips from a guy who ran his auto 335i at the track and broke 13.4 ==> http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36042

[bnj]

Originally Posted by edgarj

I'll let you know in five months when I actually get to experience dry pavement Seriously, on the one day that I had good tarmac this week, I was only getting a little slippage in 1st and between on the ist shift. I'm actually pretty impressed w the RTF's in wet and dry conditions as far as traction goes. I'm swapping wheels and tires next week (to 19" M6 reps with eagle F1 GS-D3's, 265 rears), so hopefully that will tame the XEDE when it arrives SOON, wink wink Shiv.

The few days I had with my Bridgestones before needed to change to winter tires, I was more than impressed, even amazed of their grip. Perhaps I should not be, as Bridgestone is the F1 tire I have even the F1 type of profile having 17 inch wheels/tires carefully planned by BMW to go along with the OE sport suspension to guarantee the best possible grip. Seriously, I don't believe that a better all-weather grip could be achieved by changing tires.

[BavarianRocket]

Originally Posted by teknochild

ouch so do i

Is it just me or are all the guys that don't actually own a 335i the doubters.... I know a 330 owner used to feel like the king of the non-M 3 series... but that throne has been taking by us 335i drivers...am I right?..

I just can't wait to get my snow tires off and get the damn XEDE when it is on the market!:rocks:

[BavarianRocket]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

~ slips & video will tell the truth. we'll see... someday.

but for now i stick to my prediction of 13.2 - 13.3. and keep in mind... the drivers for the mags are professionals running these times...
not your average driver.

also keep in mind that some of the drivers running 4.8 in 0-60 are doing it in a steptronic with paddles

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by BavarianRocket

Is it just me or are all the guys that don't actually own a 335i the doubters.... I know a 330 owner used to feel like the king of the non-M 3 series... but that throne has been taking by us 335i drivers...am I right?..

I just can't wait to get my snow tires off and get the damn XEDE when it is on the market!:rocks:

huh? im not doubting it at all?

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Robert,

Yes, everyone is different and every situation is also different. To me, my family, our health, and my career are my priorities; as obsessed with my car as I am, it still comes after the other three. You may be different, so good luck with that.

btw - not that it's any of your business, but we do "go out" and participate in activities as a family; however, going to the race track at night is not one of them.

sflagtor,

I am with you, I remember the day when my cars came first, my wife use to say that my cars came first even before her. That all change one day when zipping down the freeway with my 5 month in the car seat and having someone trying to beat me and cutting me off going 80 mph. When I slammed on the brakes looking in the rearview mirror to see if someone was going to slam into me form the rear only to see my sons face in the mirror.

I came to realizations it was no longer about me anymore.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Maestro

sflagtor,

I am with you, I remember the day when my cars came first, my wife use to say that my cars came first even before her. That all change one day when zipping down the freeway with my 5 month in the car seat and having someone trying to beat me and cutting me off going 80 mph. When I slammed on the brakes looking in the rearview mirror to see if someone was going to slam into me form the rear only to see my sons face in the mirror.

I came to realizations it was no longer about me anymore.

Wow...yep, it's hard, but that's why I try to "have my fun" while I'm the only one in the car. I fell off the wagon the other day though with my 4 1/2 yo in the car when some kid in a Honda ricer challenged me...I toyed with him by letting him catch up to me and then get 2 car lengths ahead of me; then blew by him and was about 10 car lengths ahead when I put on the brakes. After he was so beat and I slowed waaay down, he still went by me doing about 110mph on a 45mph rd....what an idiot. It was over in a matter of seconds, but I quickly realized that it was very stupid of me to do that with my kid in the backseat.

Thanks, good luck, have fun and stay safe!

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

drews in the house!!!

yea for sure we will hit it up. Dood im ready to go right now

Get the xede now!!! So we can do some vids and 1/4 mile times for those that wanna know! I'm dying to see how much the xede does against a slightly modded M3 and with ET's/trap's. Get on that Chuck!:rocks:

[sflgator]

An edit from an earlier post regarding slippage with the Xede...

Today, when I got on it a bit, I felt a little wheel spinning and saw the DTC light come on a few times. So, as a test, I turned off the DTC (1 quick push of the DTC button), and the wheel spinning was even more evident, even in M2 and M3. I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done to avoid the wheel spinning (especially with the extra power from the Xede), except for an LSD, which of course, the 335i does not have.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by sflgator

I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done to avoid the wheel spinning (especially with the extra power from the Xede), except for an LSD, which of course, the 335i does not have.

Big fat slicks on a dragstrip would help.

[aerisolphaln]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Today, when I got on it a bit, I felt a little wheel spinning and saw the DTC light come on a few times. So, as a test, I turned off the DTC (1 quick push of the DTC button), and the wheel spinning was even more evident, even in M2 and M3. (

I've been talking about a similar issue in a thread on the general forum, but it seems like you actually turned your DTC ON with your 1 quick push of the DTC button. DTC allows for some wheel spin and is OFF by default every time you start your car. DSC is ON by default and does not allow for wheel spin. I've read the owner's manual through several times on this point because I always turn the stability control off before driving in my G35 coupe and wanted to be sure that I fully disable the stability program on the 335i coupes I flogged 2 and 3 weeks ago.

I'd be very interested to hear what your specific ride is like when you disable your DSC (push and hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds). This will require much better driving techniques than you may be used to with the stability control on, but I really would like to hear what the beast is like when you let it out of the cage.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by aerisolphaln

I've been talking about a similar issue in a thread on the general forum, but it seems like you actually turned your DTC ON with your 1 quick push of the DTC button. DTC allows for some wheel spin and is OFF by default every time you start your car. DSC is ON by default and does not allow for wheel spin. I've read the owner's manual through several times on this point because I always turn the stability control off before driving in my G35 coupe and wanted to be sure that I fully disable the stability program on the 335i coupes I flogged 2 and 3 weeks ago.

I'd be very interested to hear what your specific ride is like when you disable your DSC (push and hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds). This will require much better driving techniques than you may be used to with the stability control on, but I really would like to hear what the beast is like when you let it out of the cage.

That's what Shiv did after he installed the Xede, and we went for our first "spin." (literally ) He turned both the DTC and DSC off, and let's just say that I've never "drifted" before, but this was as close to "drifting" as I've ever come...screaming, sliding, and skidding around corners, and yes, the wheels were still spinning. I've also tried turning both off, and launching (actually when I did my G-Tech timed 1/4 mi. runs), but it just didn't feel right to me...too much wheel spinning and I think the tranny got a little confused. So, I ended up turning it back on for my run which I got the 12.44 sec. 1/4 mi.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by BavarianRocket

Is it just me or are all the guys that don't actually own a 335i the doubters.... I know a 330 owner used to feel like the king of the non-M 3 series... but that throne has been taking by us 335i drivers...am I right?..

I just can't wait to get my snow tires off and get the damn XEDE when it is on the market!:rocks:

I dont own one and I am not a doubter. I say 12-7-12.9 realistically. I think 335i try to start more wars with 330i owners also. This makes no sense at all to me. We own the same type of car and one is faster in a straight line than the other who cares? I luv my 330i and am happy a 335i came out because I will lease one when my lease is up. Thats the best thing about leasing.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by aerisolphaln

I've been talking about a similar issue in a thread on the general forum, but it seems like you actually turned your DTC ON with your 1 quick push of the DTC button. DTC allows for some wheel spin and is OFF by default every time you start your car. DSC is ON by default and does not allow for wheel spin. I've read the owner's manual through several times on this point because I always turn the stability control off before driving in my G35 coupe and wanted to be sure that I fully disable the stability program on the 335i coupes I flogged 2 and 3 weeks ago.

I'd be very interested to hear what your specific ride is like when you disable your DSC (push and hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds). This will require much better driving techniques than you may be used to with the stability control on, but I really would like to hear what the beast is like when you let it out of the cage.

Not to pick on your ages here, but what do you think it was like driving cars with 350 to 400 Horses under the hood and none of these modern day technologies to help you keep the wheels on the ground. Driving these cars with DSC and DTC makes it so easy to keep the car on the road. Before, you had to know exactly what your car would do and how to keep the wheels from spinning and keeping the it on the path you want it to be on. You needed to know how much gas to give it and went and how to dump the clutch to rocket the car down the road.

I think all this stuff they do to control the car is robbing power and making people poor drivers.

[andrew 330i]

Originally Posted by sflgator

You're not just pissed that you have a 330i instead of waiting a few extra months for the 335i, right? I'm not saying that this is the case, but your skeptism is a bit much.

my 330 wasn't purchased for speed... not at all what i look for in a 4 door car. rarely do i even floor it.

i had an '02 M3 that ran 13.0s ... this was the car of choice for quickness for me.

i'm not trying to upset you ... i would just love to see some real testing... that's all.

cheers~