[Surquhar]

CLAP what do we care what you "know" as the "problem" You dont know shit!

You said -

" don't care either way as I will never go with reworked stock turbos."

Who gives a shit what you think!

I for one cant wait for my RB turbos, you are never going to buy any, so who cares what you think. You run Meth + FBO and you are happy, leave it at that.





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[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Surquhar

CLAP what do we care what you "know" as the "problem" You dont know shit!

You said -

" don't care either way as I will never go with reworked stock turbos."

Who gives a shit what you think!

I for one cant wait for my RB turbos, you are never going to buy any, so who cares what you think. You run Meth + FBO and you are happy, leave it at that.

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Wtf? no need for attitude here, if you're not contributing to the topic go create an I hate clap thread or whatever...those comments are really not needed

[Surquhar]

I was not posting a " I hate Clap thread" In fact I like Claps comments. (most of the time) I just dont want posting from people that dont even have RB turbos. I cant wait for mine!

[Funkmob]

Well that oil drip on the v band clamp is exactly like i have on my front turbo , i mentioned this in one of the e-mails that went to Rob and Dzenno.
I clearly said then that i can't see any trace to where its coming from exept from the turbo itself. I rinsed it off 2 times now and when i inspect that area its there again.

As soon as my car is in the shop im going to remove the downpipes and inspect the turbo's , but i fear the worst.

[rismo]

Originally Posted by Surquhar

I was not posting a " I hate Clap thread" In fact I like Claps comments. (most of the time) I just dont want posting from people that dont even have RB turbos. I cant wait for mine!

So if not owner RB Turbos men is not allowed to post?

The world is getting more strange every day.......

[Rob@RBTurbo]

Adam,

I see no reason why this goal you will not find. There are at least a couple who have been running very high boost continually with no problems. GeorgeSmooth just as you is in very high elevation (maybe even higher), and too pushes them hard and has for a while.

The contamination the turbo ingested; whether from assembly, to packaging, to shipping, to mounting to the vehicle, to some random piece of grit falling into the oil feed turbo hole after mounting, to oil feeds not properly cleaned, to some piece of contamination otherwise floating in the oil system/lines are all possibilities. To help combat a few initial probable causes listed above I finally have sourced some plastic insert plugs, which should remain in place until after installation mounting at which point cleaned lines are ready for connection. Unfortunately I did not have available yet as I sent yours back, but will use them going forward.

The bottom line is that this failure as illustrated does not happen otherwise, the turbo had eaten some contaminate somehow or some way as shown above and hence failure. I do agree though, run without the OCC for now to rule out any adverse affect it may have.

Originally Posted by Adam Way

Goal was to buy turbos to run high boost more safely. Given flow of turbo, still HUGE improvement over stock even at low boost. My theory, totally unsubstantiated, is that we are running too much boost on the RB turbos.

[dzenno]

I've put in castrol edge 5w-30 this morning instead of mobil1 0w-40 we'll see how it goes...given this is a thinner oil than mobil1 we'll see if theory holds true that the thicker fluid that mobil1 is when hot impedes the drain flow enough..just another thing to try...mobil1 cold out of the bottle looks quite a bit thicker than the new castrol edge synthetic...didn't notice any smoke on the way to work this morning and probably wishful thinking at this point

This is the one I filled up on:



http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7067053

[GeorgeSmooth]

Originally Posted by dzenno

I've put in castrol edge 5w-30 this morning instead of mobil1 0w-40 we'll see how it goes...given this is a thinner oil than mobil1 we'll see if theory holds true that the thicker fluid that mobil1 is when hot impedes the drain flow enough..just another thing to try...mobil1 cold out of the bottle looks quite a bit thicker than the new castrol edge synthetic...didn't notice any smoke on the way to work this morning and probably wishful thinking at this point

Have you checked that your crankcase breather (vent hose) is not jammed up with sludge?

It common that cars with high crankcase pressure have oil drain problems from the turbos.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by dzenno

didn't notice any smoke on the way to work this morning

nice

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by GeorgeSmooth

Have you checked that your crankcase breather (vent hose) is not jammed up with sludge?

It common that cars with high crankcase pressure have oil drain problems from the turbos.

replaced it with a new one 4 months ago...i had my valve cover open as well 2 months ago, some pics are on here...there's no sludge whatsoever, squeaky clean

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by dzenno

...didn't notice any smoke on the way to work this morning and probably wishful thinking at this point

Good luck and I hope there is a resolution soon for you. Also, thanks for keeping us all up on the things you are trying.

[vasillalov]

dzenno,

Castrol Edge is not the same as the BMW OEM oil....

EDIT: and furthermore it does not carry LL-01 approval.

This brings me to another question: how many of the people reporting smoking issues are actually using the BMW OEM oil or at least BMW LL-01 approved oil?

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

dzenno,

Castrol Edge is not the same as the BMW OEM oil....

Did I say it was? I know its not OEM, i didn't want to try oem first as ultimateracing335i is smoking on it, so I wanted to try something else also with the same spec weight wise...i went with castrol edge titanium as that's apparantly their latest and greatest synthetic sh*t and also because I ran castrol syntec 5w-30 for 85,000km before going with mobil1 0w-40 and had zero issues...the new edge i used now is apparently even better than the syntec...i doubt it'll change anything dramatically but we'll see...i won't change my driving habits...i'm still going to check out the turbos for play either tonight after work or tomorrow...

RBs, so far, have only seen Mobil1 0w-40 european formula (LL-01 approved)..

[enrita]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Did I say it was? I know its not OEM, i didn't want to try oem first as ultimateracing335i is smoking on it, so I wanted to try something else also with the same spec weight wise...i went with castrol edge titanium as that's apparantly their latest and greatest synthetic sh*t and also because I ran castrol syntec 5w-30 for 85,000km before going with mobil1 0w-40 and had zero issues...the new edge i used now is apparently even better than the syntec...i doubt it'll change anything dramatically but we'll see...i won't change my driving habits...i'm still going to check out the turbos for play either tonight after work or tomorrow...

RBs, so far, have only seen Mobil1 0w-40 european formula (LL-01 approved)..

Not good man, its not LL-01 approved , your engine will blow

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by enrita

Not good man, its not LL-01 approved , your engine will blow

i actually kind of wish I never went against what was on the oil cap right in my face, i.e. BMW recommends Castrol! not only that, i went with an oil (mobil1) that IS LL-01 approved but not the weight approved for this motor...in any case, probably won't fix anything, i've just become a total pessimist on the topic, 7 months of BS does that to even the biggest Suzy Brighteyes types lol

[Syndicategt]

Not sure what's better for YOU....having it fix the problem or not fix. I'd be pissed that a simple oil change was the solution vs thousands of $ spend trying to figure out the issue. However, for the rest of us, if your smoking problem is gone it's great news! I've already started looking for a stock exhaust to trade in preperation, I don't mind losing a few ponies and gaining a few lbs back for the sake of having healthy turbos.

[GeorgeSmooth]

Originally Posted by dzenno

I've put in castrol edge 5w-30 this morning instead of mobil1 0w-40 we'll see how it goes...given this is a thinner oil than mobil1 we'll see if theory holds true that the thicker fluid that mobil1 is when hot impedes the drain flow enough..just another thing to try...mobil1 cold out of the bottle looks quite a bit thicker than the new castrol edge synthetic...didn't notice any smoke on the way to work this morning and probably wishful thinking at this point

This is the one I filled up on:



http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7067053

If its turbo seals with the thinner oil it will smoke more. If its a drainage problem with the thinner oil it will smoke less. Lets see what happens.

[dzenno]

I don't care, just want it done with

[Adam Way]

I have run and will continue to run OEM oil. Any thoughts on what I should set boost limit on Procede at 7,000 ft elevation?

[Funkmob]

Originally Posted by Adam Way

I have run and will continue to run OEM oil. Any thoughts on what I should set boost limit on Procede at 7,000 ft elevation?

Adam,

What did your mechanic say about that oil drip on your v band of the front turbo? Was it an external leak?

I'm having the same oil drip on the front one , always dangling on the bolt of the v band clamp. The surrounding area is completely clean , so in my opinion it can't come from anywhere else then the turbo itself.

[Adam Way]

External leak on front turbo... I can live with that. As long as I can hold boost, go fast, and have a reliable option moving forward that's what would make me happy.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by Adam Way

Everything on install fresh. Unknown on how oil became contaminated. My mechanic is top notch. I would stack him against anyone in the world. We can rule out install issues from him.

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Thats nice to hear. Hopefully this is your last set of turbos that need to be installed/replaced.

Also take note that the stock DME logic is still in place to compensate for alititude. It adds 1 psi for every 1k feet over 4k. So even though the procede may display 15, it's really 18. The difference is psi vs psig, or actual vs calculated boost levels. Depends on how you like to look at it. I know you have a mechanical boost gauge and are probably aware of this, but not all people are...