[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by marv85

COBB is around 750 and may be less shipped overnight here... it also has tons of maps to go with your mods, and ATR for even more flexibility.

Unless you are technically inclined to build your own flash or pay someone to do it for you, then go with COBB..

anyway, my 2 cents, decision is yours

FWIW, baseline maps will be provided with the open source solution as well. By multiple tuners in fact. I don't believe ATR is more flexible in its current state at least.

Shiv

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by GoLakers2014

Hi all,

Interested in tuning my N54 with a flash tuning and was considering Cobb tuning since I've seen their advertisments. Almost embarrased to admit it but I'm cheap and would rather spend $100 for a cable than $900 for a tuning box or flash box, if that cable allows me to load a flash map that works just as well. How will this freeware system work? Can someone post a flash map and then I download that map to my car to have that performance?

I'm only responsible for working out the software/mapping side of things so I can probably answer this question. Baseline maps will be posted up along with the 4-5 templates/XDF files that will allow you to simply cut and past data from the template into your DME file (which will be read and saved to HD by Rombinhood's device). There will be a video showing how to do this. This will take most people 1-2 minutes to do. I'm also testing a map editor that is supposed to do this automatically using a patch function. But that requires a bit more testing before it gets the green light.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

FWIW, baseline maps will be provided with the open source solution as well. By multiple tuners in fact. I don't believe ATR is more flexible in its current state at least.

Shiv

I meant flexibility over OTS maps and not other systems

[marv85]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm only responsible for working out the software/mapping side of things so I can probably answer this question. Baseline maps will be posted up along with the 4-5 templates/XDF files that will allow you to simply cut and past data from the template into your DME file (which will be read and saved to HD by Rombinhood's device). There will be a video showing how to do this. This will take most people 1-2 minutes to do. I'm also testing a map editor that is supposed to do this automatically using a patch function. But that requires a bit more testing before it gets the green light.

so are you going to be providing maps for people without procede ?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by marv85

so are you going to be providing maps for people without procede ?

Of course.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Of course.

looool I can't stop laughing for real for a lot of reasons.

But in all seriousness, good deal

[klipseracer]

Rombinhood, show us the encryption key, ala 0h nine, eff nine style.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm only responsible for working out the software/mapping side of things so I can probably answer this question. Baseline maps will be posted up along with the 4-5 templates/XDF files that will allow you to simply cut and past data from the template into your DME file (which will be read and saved to HD by Rombinhood's device). There will be a video showing how to do this. This will take most people 1-2 minutes to do. I'm also testing a map editor that is supposed to do this automatically using a patch function. But that requires a bit more testing before it gets the green light.

You make it sound like our existing D-CAN cables we use for INPA, coding, TCU flashing etc. are no good for this open source solution. Are you saying we will have to purchase specific hardware to use the open source solution?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by themyst

You make it sound like our existing D-CAN cables we use for INPA, coding, TCU flashing etc. are no good for this open source solution. Are you saying we will have to purchase specific hardware to use the open source solution?

I'm not saying anything. But Rombinhood has said a few times that he and his team is testing a few different hardware options. I'm not at liberty to say much more at this time. But it is, after all, about time that people start complaining

[marv85]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm not saying anything. But Rombinhood has said a few times that he and his team is testing a few different hardware options. I'm not at liberty to say much more at this time. But it is, after all, about time that people start complaining

why shouldn't they if the "open source" project gets bound to specific hardware.

[Rotorocious]

Now I see, makes $ense now.

[GoLakers2014]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm only responsible for working out the software/mapping side of things so I can probably answer this question. Baseline maps will be posted up along with the 4-5 templates/XDF files that will allow you to simply cut and past data from the template into your DME file (which will be read and saved to HD by Rombinhood's device). There will be a video showing how to do this. This will take most people 1-2 minutes to do. I'm also testing a map editor that is supposed to do this automatically using a patch function. But that requires a bit more testing before it gets the green light.

Thank you for the reply. That sounds very doable for even someone not too technical such as myself. I hate to even ask this question but what is in this for you as a professional tuner? I've been around long enough to know at some point everyone needs to pay their mortgage. Will my car revert back to factory tuning after 250 miles until I insert my credit card in the CD player?

[themyst]

Originally Posted by marv85

why shouldn't they if the "open source" project gets bound to specific hardware.

If it's truly "open source" someone can convert the release into something those of us with other cables can use, if it initially requires specific hardware. I seriously doubt rombinhood is in it to make a profit, but who knows. We'll find out soon enough I guess.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by GoLakers2014

Thank you for the reply. That sounds very doable for even someone not too technical such as myself. I hate to even ask this question but what is in this for you as a professional tuner? I've been around long enough to know at some point everyone needs to pay their mortgage. Will my car revert back to factory tuning after 250 miles until I insert my credit card in the CD player?

As a professional tuning shop, we offer in-house custom dyno tuning. So for those who just want a nice custom-tuned flash that they can go back-and-forth between stock, and make further adjustments as they see fit, this open source tuning option is a good fit and an easy sale. For those who want more advanced functionality (NLS, 2-step, meth control, external map sensor, better/higher boost control, single turbo, flexfuel, etc,.) the Procede is more appropriate. It's always good to have both ends of the spectrum covered. For those who aren't local to us, they always have the option to tune it themselves or to take it to another tuner local to them. I suspect this will eventually be no different from what the Evo/Subaru community enjoys now. Real tuners haven't gone out of business due to open source tuning. Quite the opposite. The best tuners will do well.

[jippii ensio]

This thread makes me happy.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

This thread makes me happy.

if open source does in fact end up being open source, only the stupid would be unhappy

[Tiago@VRSF]

Even open source solutions require a but of hardware costs, lets just hope the prices are reasonable.

[vladster]

If it is open source the price should be easy to reach.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Even open source solutions require a but of hardware costs, lets just hope the prices are reasonable.

Speaking of hardware, I just PMd you

[Rombinhood@OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

Rombinhood, show us the encryption key, ala 0h nine, eff nine style.

I love that song!

[widebody335]

Someone share the zed please? I want to take a look!

[V8bait]

Are you guys planning on posting a current disassembly so we can add to our XDF as needed, or are you just planning on posting an epic version of a XDF along with watery versions?