M-Force Design | E90 OEM Style Front Splitter ＝CF $230 shipped/ Painted $215 shipped＝

PJ@M-Force_Design · 01-30-2008, 04:53 AM

Updated. 1/30/08 01:51 pm
1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped
2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped
3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped
4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped
5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped
6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped
7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped
8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped
9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire
10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped
11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped
12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped
13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped
14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped
15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped
16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)
17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped
18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)
19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped
20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid)
21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup)
24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered)
25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered)
26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)
27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup)
28.

strykr · 01-30-2008, 02:19 PM

any update?

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-01-2008, 04:51 AM

PM SENT

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-01-2008, 06:28 PM

1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped
2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped
3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped
4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped
5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped
6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped
7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped
8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped
9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire
10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped
11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped
12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped
13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped
14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped
15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped
16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)
17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped
18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)
19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped
20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid)
21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup)
24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered)
25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered)
26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped
27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup)
28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup)
29.
30.

mikengo · 02-01-2008, 11:22 PM

PJ,

Sent you a PM earlier.

323d · 02-01-2008, 11:51 PM

I also PMed about wanting to place an order for both the splitter + oem wing painted TiAG..

just waiting for the paypal link and for me to give you address.

thanks

Mach@M-Force_Design · 02-01-2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikengo

PJ,

Sent you a PM earlier.

You are not accepting pm's or emails...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 323d

I also PMed about wanting to place an order for both the splitter + oem wing painted TiAG..

just waiting for the paypal link and for me to give you address.

thanks

I will let PJ know.

mikengo · 02-01-2008, 11:59 PM

Apologies, PJ. Please PM me again.

turboawdfanatic · 02-02-2008, 12:05 AM

I'm a bit annoyed. Was hoping to get my CF splitters this week, and have an appt sun to get clear bra installed and wanted to get the splitters cleared as well. But they were just shipped out from Taiwan yesterday.

For those of you that got the cf....how does it hold up to rock chips?
what happened to the spoiler thread?

yamazaho · 02-02-2008, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboawdfanatic

I'm a bit annoyed. Was hoping to get my CF splitters this week, and have an appt sun to get clear bra installed and wanted to get the splitters cleared as well. But they were just shipped out from Taiwan yesterday.

Hum, next time you can ask they seller if they have the item you want in stock and ready to go before you place your order, IF you want to get your item in a timely fashion. When I ordered mine, PJ had those in stock and I got mine from the warehouse here in the US within a little over a week.

turboawdfanatic · 02-02-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yamazaho

Hum, next time you can ask they seller if they have the item you want in stock and ready to go before you place your order, IF you want to get your item in a timely fashion. When I ordered mine, PJ had those in stock and I got mine from the warehouse here in the US within a little over a week.

Normally I don't order things not in stock...but I had asked 12/31 if they were in stock..and was told they are in production and will be in the next week or so, but if i ordered now I would get it 10days. So i waited two weeks and asked again if it was in stock yet, and was told again..if you order now 10 days - 2 weeks. So at that time I just placed the order anyway.
I was told earlier this week that the batch of splitters didn't clear CQ...and had to be sent back, for new ones (completely understandable), New ones were sent out, and should get it by sat. So i was ok, that's fine. But after finally just getting the tracking number yesterday and finding out that it was just being shipped from Taiwan...I knew there was no way i would have it in time. Just a frustrating experience.

yamazaho · 02-02-2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboawdfanatic

Normally I don't order things not in stock...but I had asked 12/31 if they were in stock..and was told they are in production and will be in the next week or so, but if i ordered now I would get it 10days. So i waited two weeks and asked again if it was in stock yet, and was told again..if you order now 10 days - 2 weeks. So at that time I just placed the order anyway.
I was told earlier this week that the batch of splitters didn't clear CQ...and had to be sent back, for new ones (completely understandable), New ones were sent out, and should get it by sat. So i was ok, that's fine. But after finally just getting the tracking number yesterday and finding out that it was just being shipped from Taiwan...I knew there was no way i would have it in time. Just a frustrating experience.

I understand your frustrations man, I am not a patient guy either when comes to car parts.

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-02-2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 323d

I also PMed about wanting to place an order for both the splitter + oem wing painted TiAG..

just waiting for the paypal link and for me to give you address.

thanks

Hi,
I placed your order when we talked about this last time.

PM sent to you.

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-02-2008, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikengo

Apologies, PJ. Please PM me again.

PM sent

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-02-2008, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboawdfanatic

Normally I don't order things not in stock...but I had asked 12/31 if they were in stock..and was told they are in production and will be in the next week or so, but if i ordered now I would get it 10days. So i waited two weeks and asked again if it was in stock yet, and was told again..if you order now 10 days - 2 weeks. So at that time I just placed the order anyway.
I was told earlier this week that the batch of splitters didn't clear CQ...and had to be sent back, for new ones (completely understandable), New ones were sent out, and should get it by sat. So i was ok, that's fine. But after finally just getting the tracking number yesterday and finding out that it was just being shipped from Taiwan...I knew there was no way i would have it in time. Just a frustrating experience.

I am sorry for the delay. I did really try to push them to ship out your splitter asap when I knew your appointment of clear bar.

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-03-2008, 02:06 AM

1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped
2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped
3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped
4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped
5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped
6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped
7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped
8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped
9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire
10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped
11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped
12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped
13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped
14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped
15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped
16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)
17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped
18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)
19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped
20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid)
21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup)
24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered)
25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered)
26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped
27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup)
28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup)
29. mikengo - painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered)
30.

xtrakrispee · 02-03-2008, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ@M-Force_Design

1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped
2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped
3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped
4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped
5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped
6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped
7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped
8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped
9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire
10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped
11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped
12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped
13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped
14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped
15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped
16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)
17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped
18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)
19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped
20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid)
21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup)
24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered)
25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered)
26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped
27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup)
28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup)
29. mikengo - painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered)
30.

Hi PJ,

Where in the Bay Area are you located at?

Mach@M-Force_Design · 02-03-2008, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboawdfanatic

Normally I don't order things not in stock...but I had asked 12/31 if they were in stock..and was told they are in production and will be in the next week or so, but if i ordered now I would get it 10days. So i waited two weeks and asked again if it was in stock yet, and was told again..if you order now 10 days - 2 weeks. So at that time I just placed the order anyway.
I was told earlier this week that the batch of splitters didn't clear CQ...and had to be sent back, for new ones (completely understandable), New ones were sent out, and should get it by sat. So i was ok, that's fine. But after finally just getting the tracking number yesterday and finding out that it was just being shipped from Taiwan...I knew there was no way i would have it in time. Just a frustrating experience.

Well due to fitment issues on our last batch of cf splitters, we decided to talk to the manufacturer and get the problem fixed. Which explains our delay. We want the best fitting product for all our customers so they will be happy and proud to own a M-Force_Design product. Also, it takes 10 to 15 days to allow these to ship so please have patience with us.

We take great pride in making our customers happy. If your not happy then tell US what we can do to make YOU happy.

If your not happy, we are not happy. Pm us if you still have any problems or concerns.

Sincerely,
Mach@M-Force.

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-04-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrakrispee

Hi PJ,

Where in the Bay Area are you located at?

Sunnyvale

PJ@M-Force_Design · 02-05-2008, 04:10 AM

1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped
2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped
3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped
4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped
5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped
6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped
7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped
8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped
9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire
10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped
11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped
12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped
13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped
14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped
15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped
16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)----shipped
17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped
18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)----shipped
19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped
20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid)
21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered)
23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup)
24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered)
25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered)
26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped
27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup)
28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup)
29. mikengo - painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered)
30.

buihh · 02-06-2008, 04:25 PM

do you send it to Belgium (Europe) if yes how much does it cost for the painted one.

many thanks

Inspired · 02-07-2008, 12:51 AM

PJ please clear inbox.

01-30-2008, 04:53 AM	#199
PJ@M-Force_Design Major 94 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay area, CA iTrader: (27)	Updated. 1/30/08 01:51 pm 1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped 2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped 3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped 4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped 5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped 6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped 7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped 8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped 9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire 10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped 11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped 12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped 13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped 14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped 15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped 16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid) 17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped 18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid) 19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped 20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid) 21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup) 24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered) 25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered) 26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid) 27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup) 28. Last edited by PJ@M-Force_Design; 01-31-2008 at 02:26 AM..
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01-30-2008, 02:19 PM	#200
strykr Private First Class 2 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 06 325i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: socal iTrader: (0)	any update?
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02-01-2008, 04:51 AM	#201
PJ@M-Force_Design Major 94 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay area, CA iTrader: (27)	PM SENT
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02-01-2008, 06:28 PM	#202
PJ@M-Force_Design Major 94 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay area, CA iTrader: (27)	1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped 2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped 3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped 4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped 5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped 6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped 7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped 8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped 9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire 10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped 11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped 12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped 13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped 14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped 15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped 16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid) 17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped 18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid) 19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped 20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid) 21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup) 24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered) 25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered) 26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped 27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup) 28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup) 29. 30.
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02-01-2008, 11:22 PM	#203
mikengo Enlisted Member 2 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 323i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Macau iTrader: (0)	PJ, Sent you a PM earlier. __________________ 2007 323i E90 - Sparkling Graphite - Black Interior - CA - AS - BX - PDC
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02-01-2008, 11:51 PM	#204
323d Major 53 Rep 1,436 Posts Drives: 335i E90 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: YVR iTrader: (4)	I also PMed about wanting to place an order for both the splitter + oem wing painted TiAG.. just waiting for the paypal link and for me to give you address. thanks __________________ ZSP susp//18's 550i reps//blacklines/aftermarket grill//
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02-01-2008, 11:59 PM	#206
mikengo Enlisted Member 2 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 323i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Macau iTrader: (0)	Apologies, PJ. Please PM me again. __________________ 2007 323i E90 - Sparkling Graphite - Black Interior - CA - AS - BX - PDC
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02-02-2008, 12:05 AM	#207
turboawdfanatic Lieutenant 51 Rep 554 Posts Drives: 3 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US iTrader: (5)	I'm a bit annoyed. Was hoping to get my CF splitters this week, and have an appt sun to get clear bra installed and wanted to get the splitters cleared as well. But they were just shipped out from Taiwan yesterday. For those of you that got the cf....how does it hold up to rock chips? what happened to the spoiler thread?
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02-03-2008, 02:06 AM	#214
PJ@M-Force_Design Major 94 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay area, CA iTrader: (27)	1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped 2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped 3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped 4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped 5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped 6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped 7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped 8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped 9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire 10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped 11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped 12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped 13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped 14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped 15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped 16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid) 17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped 18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid) 19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped 20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid) 21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup) 24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered) 25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered) 26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped 27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup) 28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup) 29. mikengo - painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered) 30.
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02-05-2008, 04:10 AM	#218
PJ@M-Force_Design Major 94 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay area, CA iTrader: (27)	1. Flea7- CF splitters (paid)---shipped 2. JacobT- painted jet black (paid)---shipped 3. Whiteangel- painted Monaco Blue (paid)---shipped 4. iczz- painted TIAG (paid)---shipped 5. BretNJ- painted SG (paid)---shipped 6. akina335 - painted Tiag (paid)---shipped 7. finallyFI - painted AW+ ACS roof spoiler (paid)---shipped 8. ecsherwo- painted AW (paid)---shipped 9. bimmermansfl-painted black sapphire 10. little_croco- painted AW (paid)----shipped 11. little_croco- painted Monaco Blue splitter + spoiler (paid)----shipped 12. fotios330i- painted AW (paid)----shipped 13. fll335-painted Jetblack (paid)----shipped 14. yamazaho- CF splitter (paid)----shipped 15. Ewing- painted Jet Black (paid)----shipped 16. strykr - painted Tiag (paid)----shipped 17. DarkAngel922- cf splitter (paid)----shipped 18. kpxshorty- painted splitter AW (paid)----shipped 19. turboawdfanatic -CF splitter (paid)----shipped 20. gvonmetz- painted Sparkling Graphite (paid) 21. blacktzak-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 22. m'tamski-painted sparkling graphite (ordered) 23. L~R~G nor cal-painted sparkling graphite (ordered, pickup) 24. 323d- painted Tiag combo (ordered) 25. dwykstra-painted black sapphire (ordered) 26. FlaNkeR-CF splitter (paid)-----shipped 27. xtrakrispee-painted AW (ordered, pickup) 28. dingobat- painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered, pickup) 29. mikengo - painted Sparkling Graphite (ordered) 30.
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02-06-2008, 04:25 PM	#219
buihh New Member 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: BMW E91 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: BE iTrader: (0)	do you send it to Belgium (Europe) if yes how much does it cost for the painted one. many thanks
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02-07-2008, 12:51 AM	#220
Inspired Colonel 156 Rep 2,368 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California iTrader: (2)	PJ please clear inbox.
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