[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by BMWM5NYC

For many years cars never had airbags ,and the human race some how survived. I know how useful they are for safety. But shouldn't there be a way to deactivate/disconnect them until they can be replaced so you won't have to worry about it blowing out in your face? Just sign a waiver, have it deactivated and then you can drive your car like people did for decades before airbags were invented.

Interestingly, Mike Jackson from AutoNation brought this up a few minutes ago on CNBC and said it has been debated. However, it was decided (not sure by whom) to not disconnect them because faulty airbags are still saving more lives than harming people. Luck of the draw I guess...

[5050punk]

I'm curious too how Seattle is getting prioritized in the list. My car has until now lived outside, uncovered for its entire life, and has seen its fair share of moisture.

It is now garaged though, and the paint is looking better than it has in years. While not driving it, I've: Washed, Clayed, Washed, Meguiars Ultimate Compound'ed, Klasse All-In-One'd, and Klass High Sealant Glaze'd (twice). About to apply some Pinnacle Souveran. I did however find some rust in the rim around the inside of the trunk where the water runs off, as well as in the engine bay, which again makes me wonder how Seattle is getting prioritized.

My dealer, BMW of Bellevue, did offer a loaner, but sent me to Enterprise and gave me a crappy base model Hyundai Accent that wasn't even clean.

[Gangplank]

Wait for it...

How many? Literally 1 in 4 cars on the road.

"The U.S. government announced earlier this month that 17 automakers ? including Toyota ? are adding 35 million to 40 million Takata inflators to the 28.8 million that have already been recalled after multiple investigations showed more vehicles could be affected."


"The first phase of the expansion covers vehicles from the 2011 model year or older that are registered in Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands."

[zinner]

Raising this from the dead.

Airbags might be delayed some more.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/29/t...rbag-explodes/

[nato-main-man-5am]

Still waiting here in CA for my appt. This is getting silly.

[MalibuBimmer]

Takata filed for BK today in Japan and the US. http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/25/news...tcy/index.html

From the article:

Only 35% of affected cars have so far had their inflators replaced, he added. The process of making all U.S. vehicles safe again could last until 2023.

[RickFLM4]

Many of the affected cars will be off the road naturally before they ever get fixed. Ultimately the recall did little to protect the public since you can't remove 10s of million of cars off the road and many are still not "fixed". People are still driving them as-is and will continue to do so until the cars are out of service. While some cars were fixed the ultimate impact is to negatively impact the value of cars for owners. Nice work Takata and regulators.

[Matt@EuroJerks]

This sucks.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by Matt@EuroJerks

This sucks.

It's no big deal. Just means the replacements will come from other companies like Autoliv, which are better IMHO.

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

It's no big deal. Just means the replacements will come from other companies like Autoliv, which are better IMHO.

It's no big deal unless a Takata airbag kills you. Or you own a car with a Takata airbag and can't sell it.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

It's no big deal unless a Takata airbag kills you. Or you own a car with a Takata airbag and can't sell it.

Relax, the sky is not falling. Why would you not be able to sell it?

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Relax, the sky is not falling. Why would you not be able to sell it?

I would be reluctant to buy a car that would kill me for no reason. Of course, that's just me.

[Matt@EuroJerks]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

It's no big deal. Just means the replacements will come from other companies like Autoliv, which are better IMHO.

Sarcasm...Yeah I am sure the new companies will be rushing to replace them. /sarcasm

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

I would be reluctant to buy a car that would kill me for no reason. Of course, that's just me.

10 people have died, none of them in a BMW. I believe all of those that have died are from the early (2001-2002) bags that were built without a desiccant pack. You are more likely to be killed by debris falling from space.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

10 people have died, none of them in a BMW. I believe all of those that have died are from the early (2001-2002) bags that were built without a desiccant pack. You are more likely to be killed by debris falling from space.

Then there should not have been a recall that affected 10s of millions of cars. Regulators could have better thought through the implications. It's BS to order such a massive recall if there isn't a true need for one.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Then there should not have been a recall that affected 10s of millions of cars. Regulators could have better thought through the implications. It's BS to order such a massive recall if there isn't a true need for one.

Yet here we are.

I replace dozens here at work every week. Both of my cars are due for replacement. I am not even remotely concerned.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Yet here we are.

I replace dozens here at work every week. Both of my cars are due for replacement. I am not even remotely concerned.

So your opinion is the recalls should not have occurred? I think there is merit to that view but at least in the U.S. there are valuation implications to owners since some of the larger national dealers won't sell cars with the recall outstanding. That provides basis to reduce trade in values.

[RickFLM4]

Plus if someone else does get killed, defense counsel will say "Why were they driving the car? They were notified of the problem."

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

So your opinion is the recalls should not have occurred? I think there is merit to that view but at least in the U.S. there are valuation implications to owners since some of the larger national dealers won't sell cars with the recall outstanding. That provides basis to reduce trade in values.

Yes, I think they should be happening. I never said that. Just not as big an issue as some are making it out to be.

Strange that BMW can't seem to get parts, here at Acura, we have no problems. We get inflators by the pallet shipped to us.

[RickFLM4]

Hard for me to reconcile "should be happening" with "not a big issue" when referring to such an enormous safety based recall. It's either a big issue that warranted the regulatory reaction or it isn't.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Hard for me to reconcile "should be happening" with "not a big issue" when referring to such an enormous safety based recall. It's either a big issue that warranted the regulatory reaction or it isn't.

Because in the short term they are fine. Would not want a 20 year old one though.

[RickFLM4]

I wouldn't want any 20 year old airbag.