[bronco]

Originally Posted by NPDAN

Anyone have any sound clips and likes or dislikes of the Vishnu exhaust?

Yeah I would like to see/hear the Vishnu exhaust as well.

[bimmerlex]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It's okay... and all in good fun. FWIW, SfValley335i and Terry were the only two people that we ever refused to sell a PROcede to. I suspect much of their issues with us have to do with the rejection

shiv

I know Terry is on Shiv's "no-no" list (didn't know SfValley335i is on it too), but Shiv, I'm just curious, why wouldn't you sell PROcede to them? Not that they will probably ever want to buy it out of their pride or for some other matters (or will they?), but if they ever wanted to buy it wouldn't it just be like a recognition of your victory in this battle?

[Nemesis335i]

Shiv,

First off, very impressive.

Question for you:
I was reviewing the dyno chart and due to the stock run and V2.0 run being a similar color, I am unclear which line is the A/F for V2.0. I’m going to assume that you kept the A/F consistent in V1.45 and V2.0. That being said, isn’t the engine running a bit lean above 5000 RPMs? Simply a question, please let me know your thoughts.

Regards
Nemesis

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by bimmerlex

I know Terry is on Shiv's "no-no" list (didn't know SfValley335i is on it too), but Shiv, I'm just curious, why wouldn't you sell PROcede to them? Not that they will probably ever want to buy it out of their pride or for some other matters (or will they?), but if they ever wanted to buy it wouldn't it just be like a recognition of your victory in this battle?

When I detect a certain aroma during an interview, a whole new fee schedule kicks in. Regular assholes pay a premium over my regular fee. I tell extreme assholes I can't help them.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It's okay... and all in good fun. FWIW, SfValley335i and Terry were the only two people that we ever refused to sell a PROcede to. I suspect much of their issues with us have to do with the rejection

shiv

False.

When I was interested in the Procede I didnt want to pay taxes. You were going to help me out on that but then I decided not to go for it.... Even though you were going to attempt to squeeze me into the waiting list at that time.

There was never a time in which I wanted the procede but you rejected my order.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by lawdude

When I detect a certain aroma during an interview, a whole new fee schedule kicks in. Regular assholes pay a premium over my regular fee. I tell extreme assholes I can't help them.

You deal with aromas. I go by what I call buddha belly. My BB tells me about the "aroma" of someone w/i a minute. Terry may just have wanted it for vodoo purposes.

[IMJUSS2NASTY]

Traction people, without the LSD I doubt the V.2 Procede 335I can beat the 08 M3.

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by gonzo

You deal with aromas. I go by what I call buddha belly. My BB tells me about the "aroma" of someone w/i a minute. Terry may just have wanted it for vodoo purposes.

Yep, the aroma of an asshole is like no other.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

False.

When I was interested in the Procede I didnt want to pay taxes. You were going to help me out on that but then I decided not to go for it.... Even though you were going to attempt to squeeze me into the waiting list at that time.

There was never a time in which I wanted the procede but you rejected my order.

You didn't think you should pay CA sales tax. Uncle Sam and I disagreed. You suggested various schemes- all of which we declined. That's usually enough reason for me to want to stay clear of people. I have PMs from you to refresh your memory. You also claimed to be a friend of another customer of mine but that's another story.

As for Terry... well, that should be self-explanatory.

shiv

[bmwzimmer]

Originally Posted by IMJUSS2NASTY

Traction people, without the LSD I doubt the V.2 Procede 335I can beat the 08 M3.

On a good track, guys are hitting 1.6x and 1.7x with DR's. Especially with the steptronic transmission.
If this is the case, there's no reason a 375 whp car hitting these 60' times can't beat a rather lower HP/WT ratio M3.
From a roll, the V2.0 335 will walk the M3 up to at least 125mph, then even from there...

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Yep, the aroma of an asshole is like no other.

Well....back in college I ran into a lil' hottie. Ever been near the head on a tuna boat?

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You didn't think you should pay CA sales tax. Uncle Sam and I disagreed. You suggested various schemes- all of which we declined. That's usually enough reason for me to want to stay clear of people. I have PMs from you to refresh your memory. You also claimed to be a friend of another customer of mine but that's another story.

As for Terry... well, that should be self-explanatory.

shiv

Schemes all of which you declined?????????

Ya okay my hindu friend.... You said it would be okay to do a cash deal in person if I drove up north... Too bad theres no phone recording of it.

Ya that 'other' story you didnt elaborate on is how you bumped someone infront of other Procede orders because was a previous TT owner.

Either way not to take this thread on a different track, v2 seems great for the time being

[IMJUSS2NASTY]

Maybe I do too many burn outs, my tires seem warn. Launching is almost impossible for me.

[kujo]

Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

On a good track, guys are hitting 1.6x and 1.7x with DR's. Especially with the steptronic transmission.
If this is the case, there's no reason a 375 whp car hitting these 60' times can't beat a rather lower HP/WT ratio M3.
From a roll, the V2.0 335 will walk the M3 up to at least 125mph, then even from there...

WALK the new M3 ?
You guys are delusional.........

A fully decked out 335i will be pretty equal to the new M3, but that's it.
We'll see what happens with the new DCT M3 runs against a modded Step 335i. No " I missed a shift excuses " there........

Honestly.

I'll take an M over a modded 335 all week long.
I'm just waiting for the e90 M3.

Hell, I can buy an Evo and mod it to beat a Ferrari, but is it a Ferrari ? NO.

A modded 335 is just that. A modded car.
It won't hold it's value any better and the mods will be worth .3 to .4 cents on the dollar when you sell it, at best.



SHIV,

What is the wait time on a PROcede right now ?
When V2 is finally available, will ALL PROcede owners get the upgrade immediately or will there be some kind of wait ?

KJ

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

As for Terry... well, that should be self-explanatory.

shiv

I tried to buy one and was rejected, but then again it was mainly to take photos of it in compromising positions.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Ya okay my hindu friend.... You said it would be okay to do a cash deal in person if I drove up north... Too bad theres no phone recording of it.
[/B]

Umm sure... because I just knew you would make a 750 mile roundtrip drive to pick up a PROcede

Your Hindu friend,
shiv

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Schemes all of which you declined?????????

Ya okay my hindu friend.... You said it would be okay to do a cash deal in person if I drove up north... Too bad theres no phone recording of it.

Ya that 'other' story you didnt elaborate on is how you bumped someone infront of other Procede orders because was a previous TT owner.

Either way not to take this thread on a different track, v2 seems great for the time being

Looks like the Hindu and the agnostic have their own reasons to dislike each other. It's no one else's business but yours. Since it's personal, and if you really think it's important enough to bitch-slap each other over, how about taking it to PM.

[Dannys M3]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Not that its a big deal if you or other forum members give props to other Tuners. But I havent seen you or other Procede owners give credit for another tuners additions to this car. Give credit where its required simple as that. Trash talkin online is childish. Shiv keeps beating around the bush with the info he tells us or tries to be vague about it. Either way I'm pretty sure you guys will see the v2 is more than just a map update.

As i said earlier I give credit to Vishnu for making the additional power with v2 beta. We'll see what the other tuners can do with their Xedes or if someone actually cracks the bmw ecu and goes from there....

Let us know if any of the other xede sellers give you a free hardware upgrade if and when it happens.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Now would probably be the best time to reveal (although many already knew) that the stg 1 map that we had posted up was the same as the stg 0 map. The difference in output between the old dyno graph can be explained by a 30F difference in testing conditions. I know Terry, of all people, would like to suggest that the v2 gains are overstated. But I'm not sure even he could find fault in a controlled, same day, same conditions, same gas dyno test. But I'm all ears anyway.

shiv

What is the correction factor on the old dyno?

Despite the perception I don't have an axe to grind or reason to suggest v2 gains are overstated. As usual, I'm just selfishly trying to figure out how to make my own car faster.

If the gain really is only say 20rwhp then it goes from being somewhat difficult to comprehend (VANOS magic which I don't think exists), to just another pound of boost and a couple degrees of timing. As you know correction factors, power spikes with smoothing cranked to the max, poor cool downs, ECU learning, etc can all swing dyno numbers up or down. If you catch a down swing on one with an up swing on the other, a 20rwhp gain can look like 40rwhp.

[bronco]

If you think about it, there should not be a need for a LSD when you run in straight line on a drag strip. From a dig the weight of the car should distribute equally on the rear wheels.

So, for everyday car we dont need an LSD.

Track days are different story, but I personally would not spend that much money on something I use 2-3 times a year (If that)

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by kujo

SHIV,

What is the wait time on a PROcede right now ?
When V2 is finally available, will ALL PROcede owners get the upgrade immediately or will there be some kind of wait ?

KJ

There are a whole mess of kits shipping out tomorrow. There are 5 kits extra that we have in stock right. They can also ship out tomorrow. Once those last 5 are spoken for, it'll be late next week before we'll get any more units in stock.

When v2 is ready for mass consumption, all PROcede users are welcome to the upgrade. No wait.

shiv

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You didn't think you should pay CA sales tax. Uncle Sam and I disagreed. You suggested various schemes- all of which we declined. That's usually enough reason for me to want to stay clear of people. I have PMs from you to refresh your memory. You also claimed to be a friend of another customer of mine but that's another story.

As for Terry... well, that should be self-explanatory.

shiv

If SfValley335i could afford to pay $1,300 for the PROcede, why was he so cheap as to not wanting to pay CA taxes? It's a known fact that if you order something (that comes from the same state you're in) whether by mail, phone, or Internet, you must pay state tax on it. Only those orders that come from out-of-state are not taxable. Jeez...what a cheap SOB.