All COBB Tuning AccessPORT Flash for N54 335i Discussion Here

Devas · 09-12-2011, 03:08 PM

Well its the closes official thing Cobb has said, and you can't prove that Stage 2 won't be needing it. Therefore, I win! lol

bulldog_yyc · 09-12-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Devas

Well its the closes official thing Cobb has said, and you can't prove that Stage 2 won't be needing it. Therefore, I win! lol

BMWsky · 09-12-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamal

LOL, "cooler air" is why I've hesitated on the DCI style intakes... I know Stett makes a cold air intake, but that's also some serious $$.

I bought my Stett from Jeff @ TopGearSolutions and will say that I don't regret it for a second. It isn't the cheapest way (Mr 5 is probably the best bang for the buck), but it works.

...the only regret I have is not getting it anodized in some crazy color.

Actually, that might not be so desireable as the intake gets all kinds of attention as it is at the track when the hoods open after a run.

kdiggz · 09-12-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Devas

Well its the closes official thing Cobb has said, and you can't prove that Stage 2 won't be needing it. Therefore, I win! lol

if you want this delicious cookie you are going to have to do better than that!

Kamal · 09-12-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWsky

I bought my Stett from Jeff @ TopGearSolutions and will say that I don't regret it for a second. It isn't the cheapest way (Mr 5 is probably the best bang for the buck), but it works.

...the only regret I have is not getting it anodized in some crazy color.

Actually, that might not be so desireable as the intake gets all kinds of attention as it is at the track when the hoods open after a run.

Yea I don't doubt that it's worth it one bit... I'm not sure if anyone has been able to replicate the Mr 5 intake setup for the 135i's. I guess we'll have to wait and see what Cobb officially recommends for stage 2 maps.

<impatiently waiting>

PlutoniumTans · 09-12-2011, 04:50 PM

if it's 400whp I'll get rid of the meth and piggyback, hate piggybacks !!!!

enrita · 09-12-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PlutoniumTans

if it's 400whp I'll get rid of the meth and piggyback, hate piggybacks !!!!

and why would you get rid of meth? Its still very usefull even with Cobb.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-12-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWsky

I bought my Stett from Jeff @ TopGearSolutions and will say that I don't regret it for a second. It isn't the cheapest way (Mr 5 is probably the best bang for the buck), but it works.

...the only regret I have is not getting it anodized in some crazy color.

Actually, that might not be so desireable as the intake gets all kinds of attention as it is at the track when the hoods open after a run.

**

Stage 2 will have 2 different requirements depending on the 2 maps they will be offering.

All i know is for the "race" version map it requires Turbo back exaust (that means downpipes and catback exhaust), FMIC, Intake. I cant remember what the other requires. I would venture to say Downpipes and FMIC as a minimum.

PlutoniumTans · 09-12-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

and why would you get rid of meth? Its still very usefull even with Cobb.

it'll be useful with cobb ? how ? Thanks ! =]

themyst · 09-12-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PlutoniumTans

it'll be useful with cobb ? how ? Thanks ! =]

Heatsoak suppression

PlutoniumTans · 09-12-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

Heatsoak suppression

smaller nozzle ? lighter mix ?

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-12-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PlutoniumTans

smaller nozzle ? lighter mix ?

50/50 mix and smaller nozzle.

Figure ignition will be set on OTS maps so you just want to ensure you are hitting max ignition and controlling IAT.

enrita · 09-12-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PlutoniumTans

smaller nozzle ? lighter mix ?

depends what nozzle you are using now. i would use a 5 or 7 max . you can still limit it with the controller. just read up on it .

themyst · 09-12-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

depends what nozzle you are using now. i would use a 5 or 7 max . you can still limit it with the controller. just read up on it .

If this unicorn called Cobb stage 2 ever comes out I'm going with a DO1 nozzle. All I want is cooler charge temps since the thing is tuned conservatively for pump + Fbo. Considering it's tuned for pump it won't really matter if the meth kit fails either.

SennaZ · 09-12-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

it won't really matter if the meth kit fails either.

I'm thinking that Cobb is-has the potential for-monitoring so many data channels that surely it wouldn't be a big deal to have an automatically switched meth tune that would instantly fall back to a default table under certain conditions (e.g., rapid rise in IAT, etc.)

themyst · 09-12-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SennaZ

I'm thinking that Cobb is-has the potential for-monitoring so many data channels that surely it wouldn't be a big deal to have an automatically switched meth tune that would instantly fall back to a default table under certain conditions (e.g., rapid rise in IAT, etc.)

Or like I recommended numerous times a bypass solenoid connected to a flow sensor.

bulldog_yyc · 09-12-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

Or like I recommended numerous times a bypass solenoid connected to a flow sensor.

is there an off the shelf solution for such a configuration with a flash tune, I hear yes and no... whats the definitive conclusion?

themyst · 09-12-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by turkish335

is there an off the shelf solution for such a configuration with a flash tune, I hear yes and no... whats the definitive conclusion?

Go to snows website.

Pseudo Nim · 09-13-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by themyst

If this unicorn called Cobb stage 2 ever comes out I'm going with a DO1 nozzle. All I want is cooler charge temps since the thing is tuned conservatively for pump + Fbo. Considering it's tuned for pump it won't really matter if the meth kit fails either.

There is no IF. Hope you like unicorns. :]

bs123 · 09-13-2011, 03:04 PM

Hey fellas, was hoping you guys would be able to chim in on a few questions i had about purchasing COBB AP.

I bought a used 335xi that came installed with BMW performance kit. Searching through the forums I was able to pull some info on tunes that were capable of combining the hardware from the PPK with a more aggressive tune. I was not able to find anyone who had run this set up.

Now im not trying to stack the tunes, i understand that once i use COBB AP, i will lose the software tune i gained from PPK. But what I was hoping for was to use COBB AP and keep the function of my upgraded fan, +1 radiator, and have the potential to push for more power down the line. Is this possible with the combo of COBB AP + PPK hardware?

appreciate those who can shed some light. i'd probably just keep the PPK if it werent for wanting to do other bolt-ons.

bill

mithiral67 · 09-13-2011, 03:08 PM

I believe an upgraded fan and radiator will only help with cooling of the engine temps with little to no benifit to actually expanding the engines max safe power potential. You would need to improve the engines ability to breath (intake, fmic, dps, exhaust, turbos, etc to aid in this.

bs123 · 09-13-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mithiral67

I believe an upgraded fan and radiator will only help with cooling of the engine temps with little to no benifit to actually expanding the engines max safe power potential. You would need to improve the engines ability to breath (intake, fmic, dps, exhaust, turbos, etc to aid in this.

you need a fmic to have ppk and it does have pe exhaust, was hoping to do dp and custom midpipe.

but to stay on topic, does the upgraded fan and radiator continue to work without ppk software?

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bs123 Private First Class 6 Rep 181 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: cali iTrader: (-1) Garage List 2008 335 xi [0.00]	cobb ap + PPK hardware set up Hey fellas, was hoping you guys would be able to chim in on a few questions i had about purchasing COBB AP. I bought a used 335xi that came installed with BMW performance kit. Searching through the forums I was able to pull some info on tunes that were capable of combining the hardware from the PPK with a more aggressive tune. I was not able to find anyone who had run this set up. Now im not trying to stack the tunes, i understand that once i use COBB AP, i will lose the software tune i gained from PPK. But what I was hoping for was to use COBB AP and keep the function of my upgraded fan, +1 radiator, and have the potential to push for more power down the line. Is this possible with the combo of COBB AP + PPK hardware? appreciate those who can shed some light. i'd probably just keep the PPK if it werent for wanting to do other bolt-ons. bill
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