[Mr Practical]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

There are a whole mess of kits shipping out tomorrow. There are 5 kits extra that we have in stock right. That can also ship out tomorrow. Once those last 5 are spoken for, it'll be late next week before we'll get any more units in stock.

When v2 is ready for mass consumption, all PROcede users are welcome to the upgrade. No wait.

shiv

Got my order in earlier this morning :rocks: Hopefully, I can have it by Friday or early next week. I miss my M, heopfully this mod will make it hurt a little less.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by sflgator

If SfValley335i could afford to pay $1,300 for the PROcede, why was he so cheap as to not wanting to pay CA taxes? It's a known fact that if you order something (that comes from the same state you're in) whether by mail, phone, or Internet, you must pay state tax on it. Only those orders that come from out-of-state are not taxable. Jeez...what a cheap SOB.

I think there are a lot of e90forum members around the country who need to visit their local state tax office and submit a $100 check.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Terry335

I think there are a lot of e90forum members around the country who need to visit their local state tax office and submit a $100 check.

Out of state is exempt. Here.....breath deep again.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Out of state is exempt. Here.....breath deep again.

Pretty sure you still owe the tax, maybe Lawdude can help us with this one.

[lawdude]

Shiv might not have to collect it, but Terry's right. Better check with your dept. of revenue's sales and use tax division and see if you owe 'em some money. That is if you want to be a law-abiding taxpayer. Otherwise, ignore this post.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by Dannys 335i

Let us know if any of the other xede sellers give you a free hardware upgrade if and when it happens.

It already happened earlier this week. AA is sending out Map switches to ALL of their Xede customers.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Shiv might not have to collect it, but Terry's right. Better check with your dept. of revenue's sales and use tax division and see if you owe 'em some money. That is if you want to be a law-abiding taxpayer. Otherwise, ignore this post.

I was under the impression that if I paid the shipping that is my part. Hey Terry pass that over here. j/k All in good natured ribbing.

[bronco]

Why can't we live in peace....?

Xede, PROceed, TT, Terry Tuner etc............WTF.....???

You like a product for some reason and you buy it. END of story!
You dont like a product, and then you dont buy it!

Well, I guess the lawn is always greener on the other side.....

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Pretty sure you still owe the tax, maybe Lawdude can help us with this one.

No. Out-of-state purchases are tax exempt. Haven't you ever ordered off the Internet (from companies not based in CA)?

[Ado]

Originally Posted by bronco

Why can't we live in peace....?

Xede, PROceed, TT, Terry Tuner etc............WTF.....???

You like a product for some reason and you buy it. END of story!
You dont like a product, and then you dont buy it!

Well, I guess the lawn is always greener on the other side.....

I think all would be fine if Terry wouldn't keep coming into threads that Shiv starts and starts shit.

I find that Terry has absolutely nothing constructive to say about the PROCede.

I vote for a Ban, he can go somewhere else and be an idiot.

[elucas730]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Shiv might not have to collect it, but Terry's right. Better check with your dept. of revenue's sales and use tax division and see if you owe 'em some money. That is if you want to be a law-abiding taxpayer. Otherwise, ignore this post.

On the NYS Income Tax form, they have a line item where you are supposed to volunteer how much tax you own on goods purchased out of state via the internet. Uh, yeah....I bet that collect a lot of revenue that way.

[elucas730]

Originally Posted by Ado

I think all would be fine if Terry wouldn't keep coming into threads that Shiv starts and starts shit.

I find that Terry has absolutely nothing constructive to say about the PROCede.

I vote for a Ban, he can go somewhere else and be an idiot.

My opinion as a newbie who has had experience with tuning turbo cars in the past and involved in forums like this...Terry could be good to provide a balance. I'm familiar with how good Shiv's stuff is from my Subie days, but everyone here kisses his ass at every opportunity and he is rarely questioned. He could (but I don't think he would) take advantage of this. It's good to have people like Terry around to question what other tuners are doing.

Unfortunately for Terry, he has no tact and comes off like a whiny little bitch and is full of sour grapes. I mean, crying about how much power difference between the v1.45 dyno and the v2.0 dyno, when he should as a supposed "tuner" know that different days produce different results. The first dyno graph provided here by Shiv appears to be 3 dyno runs within a short time of each other on the same day, and shows the results between the different versions. Terry's crying about it makes him look like a baby.

[bronco]

Originally Posted by elucas730

On the NYS Income Tax form, they have a line item where you are supposed to volunteer how much tax you own on goods purchased out of state via the internet. Uh, yeah....I bet that collect a lot of revenue that way.

Yep

[Park2670]

Originally Posted by Ado

I vote for a Ban, he can go somewhere else and be an idiot.

agreed

[SoCal335i]

Originally Posted by bronco

Why can't we live in peace....?

Xede, PROceed, TT, Terry Tuner etc............WTF.....???

You like a product for some reason and you buy it. END of story!
You dont like a product, and then you dont buy it!

Well, I guess the lawn is always greener on the other side.....

We could all live in peace if all of the chips/piggybacks made the same power, the problem now is that the PROcede is the best one so everyone that bought the brand X is mad at the procede because they dont have one. Kind of like hating me because they aint me...

[bronco]

Originally Posted by Park2670

agreed

I dont want to take any sides, but lets not be too violent.
We supposed to be a community that share knowledge....

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by sflgator

No. Out-of-state purchases are tax exempt. Haven't you ever ordered off the Internet (from companies not based in CA)?

Not quite true. The seller is not required to collect the tax. You are supposed to claim it though and pay it on April 15.

Of course this is seldom done.

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

How should Shiv anser this, with his crystal ball? He has proven already that he offers a safe tune for the engine, but he didn't design the entire car so if you are looking for a definitive answer as to whether or not your transmission/drivetrain will handle the power in the long term, its all just speculation at this point. If I had to make an educated guess at this point though I really wouldn't worry too much about it since there are a good # of procede/AA cars running around without any tranny/clutch/differential problems. It also depends how you drive your car. If you maintain your car well and drive it hard every once and a while that is much different then if you beat the piss out of it every time you hop in the driver's seat.

Freakin love your avatar............LMFAO

[bronco]

Originally Posted by SoCal335i

We could all live in peace if all of the chips/piggybacks made the same power, the problem now is that the PROcede is the best one so everyone that bought the brand X is mad at the procede because they dont have one. Kind of like hating me because they aint me...

Yeah, but if I remember correctly, Shiv offered a replacement of the Xede when they started selling the PROceed, right?

or

Maybe you are referring to those individuals, that purchased X product, after the PROceed was released?

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by sflgator

No. Out-of-state purchases are tax exempt. Haven't you ever ordered off the Internet (from companies not based in CA)?

Use tax is due on purchases made out of state and brought into Florida within 6 months of the purchase date.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Shiv might not have to collect it, but Terry's right. Better check with your dept. of revenue's sales and use tax division and see if you owe 'em some money. That is if you want to be a law-abiding taxpayer. Otherwise, ignore this post.

FWIW I think Shiv flying in and delivering/installing the device constitutes a nexus in most states. This means he could be held liable for the use tax directly in those states that he visited.

[bimmerlex]

Originally Posted by SoCal335i

We could all live in peace if all of the chips/piggybacks made the same power, the problem now is that the PROcede is the best one so everyone that bought the brand X is mad at the procede because they dont have one. Kind of like hating me because they aint me...

I have Xede, and I'm not mad at the PROcede at all. I am always for healthy competition. Heck, I might even wanna switch to PROcede one day if AA doesn't come up with something comparable to V2.0 in a reasonable amount of time.