[M-terkait]

Cant wait ,I guess I'll gift it to myself for the summer time

[ShlemonboostedM]

Bump

[evo335xi]

Nice! So roughly 7.5 seconds from 60-120mph gauging 100km(62.1)to 200km(124). How does this stack up against other performance cars is the question!

[ShlemonboostedM]

http://www.car-videos.net/performanc...=60&Speed2=120" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.car-video...Speed2=120</a>

[PeterPure]

Hi Guys,

As promised some dyno results. Let me start by saying that I am impressed with the results. The car pulls much stronger towards 6500 rpm. And the difference with stock turbo with meth on map3 with 40 meth adder is huge.

Allthough the car was not making the same boost as it makes consistently on the street and jb4 target was not doing what I set it to (I guess heat issue) the best result was 446 bhp and 647nm. So the max boost dyno was actually not reaching the target. Hence my daily boost map is close to the result of the max boost map. I also dynoed on 15 psi boost map for reference and while midrange is about 20/30 bhp less, topend is still pretty strong.

Compare between max boost, daily map and lower boost runs:


JB4 logs of the above runs:
MAX

Daily

15 psi

And for reference the csv's as well:
http://users.telenet.be/darkhold/pure_daily.csv
http://users.telenet.be/darkhold/pure_max.csv
http://users.telenet.be/darkhold/pure_15psi.csv
As you can see the car was not quite matching the high boost map. However on the street it can match these boost levels consistently. So maybe this means a few more bhp real world


Compare between max boost, stock map3 40 meth adder and stock:

Unfortunately the stock map3 was not till redline but as you can see bhp goes downhill after 5600 rpm.
JB4 log of the map3 run:

And the csv:
http://users.telenet.be/darkhold/stock_map3.csv

Overall I couldnt be happier with the result. Comparing stock, map3 meth and the pure turbo there really is a big difference.

Any questions ---> shoot

[Pure Turbos]

WOW! Very nice results! I would assume the lowered boost pressures on the dyno are from heat soak and higher intake air temps. We always have a difference on and off the dyno. 100+ mph winds cool the intercooler very well

For example, our 1970 2800cs E9 Turbo made 415whp on the dyno. We did a street tune before the dyno session. It was tuned perfectly at 11.8:1. After strapping it down, it ran consistently at 11.0:1. So things change on and off the dyno. The dyno never loads the engine exactly the same as the street. And temps are different too...

N55 PURE Stage 1 - 450WHP !!!

Awesome update! Thanks Darkhold!!!

[paradoxical3]

That is not 446whp right?

[Pure Turbos]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

That is not 446whp right?

Sure is!

He didn't pull the engine out of the car and put it on an engine dyno...

[paradoxical3]

Originally Posted by Pure Turbos

Sure is!

He didn't pull the engine out of the car and put it on an engine dyno...

But his baseline at stock is like 320hp...that would be the highest baseline ever.

Sorry if I am being stupid I am having a hard time understanding these European dyno charts.

[PeterPure]

Just for clarification dyno in europe is engine bhp. So are the above results.

However the dynos over here read low compare to in US. But its good to see comparison between stock, stock map3 with 40 meth adder and pure turbo. The difference between pure and jb4 is even bigger than stock to jb4 map3 with meth. Really a nice upgrade.

The car really feels like it pulls like a train and the dyno confirms butt dyno

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

But his baseline at stock is like 320hp...that would be the highest baseline ever.

Sorry if I am being stupid I am having a hard time understanding these European dyno charts.

And yes the m135i has 320 bhp stock same as m235i. F30 335i has 306 stock over here.

Just focus on the difference between the different maps and turbo.

[Pure Turbos]

Exactly. You will always find differences between each brand and type of dyno. Like Darkhold said, focus on the increase over the stock turbo dyno run. This shows the true gains.

[paradoxical3]

Originally Posted by Darkhold

And yes the m135i has 320 bhp stock same as m235i. F30 335i has 306 stock over here.

Just focus on the difference between the different maps and turbo.

Thanks, do you know if your car has the 4 inch or 3 inch turbo flange?

Exactly. You will always find differences between each brand and type of dyno. Like Darkhold said, focus on the increase over the stock turbo dyno run. This shows the true gains.

Definitely big gains, just trying to figure out roughly how many WHP gains it would translate into. It is safe to say you are over 420WHP - we know that these cars baseline around 280-300 WHP (a 20-40HP difference from your 320) so if we subtract that 20HP from your top result that's still a very nice gain, and I believe it would probably be the 2nd most powerful N55 out there behind the Vargas one (which is way too expensive).

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

Thanks, do you know if your car has the 4 inch or 3 inch turbo flange?

3 inch. Isnt it 3.5''? Anyways its the smaller one not the new 4 inch

[PeterPure]

Well i can ask dyno shop for the whp results as well. But will be for tomorrows i guess its closed now

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by hetzle

So that's 446whp/477wtq (lb/ft), pretty damn impressive! A couple questions:

-Is this on a dynojet?

-Would the same power levels be reachable with a half tank of E85 or is meth the way to go?

Either way, this is option provides absolutely excellent value for the price.

Dont know what type of dyno it is. Its one of the lowest reading here in belgium though.

I only run like 10% e100 with meth and 93 octane. I guess 50% e85 would do the trick as well however terry recommends meth but depends what boost level you run.

Honestly the 15psi curve is not too shabby for a daily map.

[hetzle]

Using a 15% drivetrain loss that would translate into 380whp/405wtq (lb/ft). Keep in mind that most cars here are dyno'd on Dynojets which read consistently higher than Mustang (heartbreaker) dynos by about 15% and he says this is the lowest reading dyno in Belgium. So I'd say it's safe to assume this car would put down roughly that same amount as whp on a Dynojet.

Edit: Sorry that I deleted my other post, I had assumed that was whp

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by hetzle

Using a 15% drivetrain loss that would translate into 380whp/405wtq (lb/ft). Keep in mind that most cars here are dyno'd on Dynojets which read consistently higher than Mustang dynos by about 15%. So it's safe to assume this car would put down roughly that same amount as whp on a Dynojet.

Edit: Sorry that I deleted my other post, I had assumed that was whp

I guess only can find out if i put car on such dyno. Anyways comparing stock with best result is over 120 bhp gains. And on street possibly even a bit more due to reaching boost target. Dont forget its also on F series car without backend flash.

Tnx Pure Turbo for developping this awesome upgrade!

[Pure Turbos]

Originally Posted by hetzle

Using a 15% drivetrain loss that would translate into 380whp/405wtq (lb/ft). Keep in mind that most cars here are dyno'd on Dynojets which read consistently higher than Mustang dynos by about 15%. So it's safe to assume this car would put down roughly that same amount as whp on a Dynojet.

Edit: Sorry that I deleted my other post, I had assumed that was whp

Using a 15% drivetrain loss, that would put his stock turbo dyno run down to 271whp. That doesn't sound right?

[marCOCOpuffs]

I'm confused! Get the baseline whp and pure turbo whp! Please! Thanks?

[jayzF30]

Those JB4 logs look horrendous. Your throttle does not even open all the way until 5000 RPM! I would try to resolve that with BMS first as there are clearly some major issues with your tune.

271hp at the wheels sounds reasonable for a stock N55 dyno. These numbers are most certainly numbers at the crank.

[hetzle]

Originally Posted by Pure Turbos

Using a 15% drivetrain loss, that would put his stock turbo dyno run down to 271whp. That doesn't sound right?

EDIT: I confused myself, his stock run reads 320hp which means all these numbers should be BHP